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To be more specific, MacKaye talks about skateboarding culture in the “Skate And Create” section of the D.I.Y. America documentary put together by Aaron Rose and WKE, a subsidiary of Nike and Coca Cola and etc.’s ad agency Wieden+Kennedy. It’s labeled a “WKE Original Series.” While I wouldn’t exactly call it pimping for Nike’s ad agency, for someone as politically outspoken as MacKaye, he probably should have done his homework (or read the release form/contract more closely). What’s more interesting to me is that this “serialized show focusing on leaders in the youth/punk/DIY movement” doesn’t include much youth. Why? Because the series was constructed from footage shot for, but not included in Beautiful Losers, the film about early ’90s D.I.Y. So, no, you’re likely not going to get much 2010: Instead of Todd P and friends, it’s MacKaye, Thurston Moore, Kim Gordon, Tommy Guerrero, Tony Hawk, etc., doing the talking. (As far as newer crews, the soundrack includes Gang Gang Dance and No Age.) All that said, MacKaye has cool/poetic things to say about “the skaters’ gaze,” but it’s not nearly as entertaining as this Nike-related fodder. Take a look.

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  1. Alice In Blunderland  |   Posted on Jan 18th, 2010 0

    DogtownZ was a real good…Great soundtrack…Fast Times the documentary…

  2. I think part of my 14 year self has died a bit.

    My 19 year old self doesn’t blame him/seem to care.

  3. awesomedude  |   Posted on Jan 18th, 2010 0

    YEAH! YOU GOT HIM! AWESOME! 30+ years and dozens of records and an incredible history of activism and protest for social justice all leading to this moment where the great Ian MacKaye finally fucked up. How the mighty have fallen!!!!! I CAN’T BELIEVE MY EYES!!!!!!

    GOOD WORK FOR BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE TO LIGHT

  4. PANDA  |   Posted on Jan 18th, 2010 0

    As a 19 year old edge kid, I has a sad, but really, MacKaye has history on his side. Why he would work with a company that has tried to rip him off in the past I don’t understand, but it doesn’t really lessen my idol worship of him.

  5. Dudeseriously  |   Posted on Jan 18th, 2010 0

    Ian has no money. And this is a minor over sight. And it is SOOOOO much harder to be true DIY now than it was in the 90′s. There’s no money in CD’s, Records, Merch etc anymore and since I haven’t heard any fugazi/threat etc in any big Commercials I imagine money is hard so even if he did know f*ck us for judging him. He has carried the burden of DIY for years after the world stopped caring. Most of us gave up our ideals the second we left moms basement

    • MacKaye has no money? Are you – dare I say – retarded? 13 songs and Repeater – alone – have sold over a million copies. Where does all that money go? Straight to Dischord, Inc. Not to mention every dollar the band ever made on tour went right back in their rightful pockets. So, in closing: don’t be stupid, Stupid.

      • Dudeseriously  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2010 0

        you have no grasp of reality and money and splits. I’m sure they made millions charging $5 a person and the dischord 401k and retirement fund is spilling over. So in closing, don’t be a moron, MORON

  6. anonymoose  |   Posted on Jan 18th, 2010 0

    i don’t care what the fuck he does as long as he puts fugazi back together.

    • Pete  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2010 0

      I agree and I disagree… The thing with Fugazi was that every album always sounded like it could have been their final album. And The Argument had such a feeling of finality to it… As much as I love Fugazi, I’m still not sure if I’m ready for a follow-up to The Argument. And I’m not sure if they could do it, and have it live up to the expectation….

  7. Perhaps it would be suitable for everyone on the criticism bandwagon to submit their DIY/punk credentials and match it to MacKaye’s? Do you guys think he’s getting a million dollar cheque for this? He made a fortune out of $5 shows and CDs??!!?? (And if so… what’s the crime?) Could it be he reinvested an awful lot of that at Dischord? Do it yourselves, guys… then get criticized 30 years down the line here.

  8. Justin  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2010 0

    At first I wanted to hate Ian for this. But then I remembered that his bands produced songs such as Suggestion, Blueprint, Margin Walker, Bulldog Front, Repeater, In My Eyes, Betray, Filler & I Don’t Wanna Hear It. Any one of these songs are infinitely better that whatever limpdick Fiery Furnaces/Dirty Projectors bullshit you asswipes desperately cling to. And for that reason alone no-one (including myself) on this site is good enough to even smell MacKaye’ shit

  9. Sean  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2010 0

    Source your material. Find out who, and how, Beautiful Losers was made. You might learn something.
    Mackaye is the man.

    Now, try and remove your heads from your asses.

  10. BeautifulLosers  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2010 0

    Just to set the record straight…and for the public record, DIY America was produced by an independent production company (the same people who produced the feature documentary Beautiful Losers) and is only hosted on WKE. It is also scheduled to appear many other places.

  11. lol  |   Posted on Jan 21st, 2010 0

    OLO @ stereogum and dailyswarm. i’m sure mckaye or anyone with a semblance of a grasp of reality really gives a flying poo poo about any of this. oh wait, that’s indeed what he says here:

    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/01/21/ian-mackaye-on-d-i-y-america-i-dont-know-what-the-fuck-any-of-this-is-about/#more-16899

    ?I don?t know what the fuck any of this is about,? he told me over the phone, explaining that he allowed his friend, the director and artist Aaron Rose, to interview him several years ago for Beautiful Losers. Apparently, MacKaye explained, ?I wasn?t beautiful enough? for the final cut. He said my note was the first time he?d heard about D.I.Y. America, and that he felt it was an unnecessary story for bloggers?and me?to write about while wars are being fought abroad and people are dying. He said the pervasiveness of large corporations is such that it?s impossible to completely avoid contact with the ones you disapprove of. And he said the bloggers wagging their fingers at his unknowing involvement in D.I.Y. America are likely bored office workers. ?That?s my curse and blessing,? he said. ?Some people look out for me.?

  12. Joe  |   Posted on Jan 22nd, 2010 0

    Thank you to the last guy who posted with the link to the washington city paper! Fuck you Stereogum for having a misleading title for your article. Ian has inspired so many people including myself, and for you to fucking go after him on something like this is bullshit! I read all of these online music sites, and I’m entertained, and I check out some of the bands, but Fugazi and Ian are dear to my heart, and they are so much bigger than music critics or bloggers. In fact just talking about Fugazi makes me resent how the whole “indie” rock scene has turned out. None of the popular indie rock bands today can even hold a candle to Fugazi, Pixies, Sonic Youth, or any of the big indie bands of the 80′s and 90′s. These websites have convinced people (including me at times) that these new trendy fashionable bands are just as good, but they are not. Its rich kid cock rock. Please never talk about Fugazi again, unless the headline is, “Fugazi Reunites to Tour, Create New Album, and Save Us From the Hideous Shit Pitchfork and Stereogum are Selling Us”

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