Pele Holmes is a popular comedian and podcaster who hosts the new-ish nightly talk show after Conan on TBS. Most of Holmes’ guests so far have been comedians, but last night he had a chat with Black Hippy member ScHoolboy Q, who admitted he does not get on TV much. That’s probably why this interview was so endearingly awkward. Holmes learns that Q lies about his shoe size and suffers from acid reflex, and asks whether white people should stop rapping along at his concerts when the lyrics contain the N-word. Watch below.

The full episode, which also features stand-up from former Videogum columnist Gabe Liedman, can be viewed here.