Roger Ebert has written a very thoughtful blog post about the Twitter dust up with Bam Margera and his original intentions. It is worth reading. Let’s bring our boys home safe.
According to AV Club, Perez Hilton is involved involved with this, on Team Bam. I sure wish you would have told us earlier, so that we could all unite in our support of Roger Ebert and just move on.
Friends don’t let friends drink and drive. I can get behind that.
That was a very thoughtful post, but I can’t help thinking it would have had more impact spread over a couple dozen Tweets.
It’s crazy how people misinterpret statements, Bam Margera supports drunk driving and thinks everyone who drives at a reasonable speed sober is a pussy
“What did I mean by that? I meant exactly what I wrote. I wasn’t calling Ryan Dunn a jackass. In Twitter shorthand, I was referring to his association with ‘Jackass.'”
Um, yeah i don’t believe that for a second.
The whole thing seemed pretty disingenous to me.
I am sure this will be the end of the whole thing, and everyone in both camps is going to get along now.
Wow, this post has the recliner bros too! SPOOKY GUM!
“I also regret that my tweet about the event was considered cruel. It was not intended as cruel. It was intended as true.”
Worst apology ever?
Key word here is “unseemly.”
I don’t know, I’ve thought a lot about this all day (I’ve thought a little bit about this just before commenting here) and I can kind of understand the anger at Ebert, but, if there’s one thing he doesn’t come across as, it’s snarky. So I think I do believe him when he says he used the word “jackass” just because of the late Ryan Dunn’s affiliation with that show and the movies of the same name. Coming from anyone else, I would probably perceive that as a lie to cover his arse. But I think Ebert meant what he said (about meaning what he said.)
I’m going to assume something i want to say has already been said BUT THIS:
Bam Margera lives in a gothic themed house called “Castle Bam”.
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Even if he didn’t mean ‘jackass’ as a referral to the show, which I think he’s lying about, I think it’s definitely OK labeling him ‘jackass’ for driving that fast at night on a road shared by the public. Instead of lying and giving disingenuous apologies, I wish he would’ve stuck by the sane argument that Ryan Dunn and his friend would still be here if he didn’t do a massively jackass thing. He certainly could’ve come across less flippant about it right after the accident but Ebert lives on Twitter, I don’t think he meant it in a flippant way.
That was a comically transparent backpedaling. Ebert, dude, just say what you wrote what shitty and that you are sorry. You can still make a point about drunk driving not being a good thing without calling someone who was just killed a jackass and making a cheap joke about it. You did mean it that way. Stop it.
If you want to defend it, fine, but you’re still kind of an asshole for insensitively making a joke about it. Thems the breaks.
In all the hundreds of comments on the other thread and this one there’s this ton of people are saying “Well, I mean, Ebert was right. don’t drink and drive. He could have killed innocent people…” And “the jackass guys should be the first to tell their fans not to drink and drive!”
Do you guys that said that realize how easy it was for Ebert to say what he said? Do you guys that supported him for it realize how easy it is for YOU to say it too?
It reminds me of David Cross making the joke about how if you think it is ok to kill and eat babies then he wants to tell you “NO WAY BUDDY! IT IS NOT OK TO KILL AND EAT BABIES!”
This is a first grade lesson. Everyone is going to hear that lesson a lot of times. When it’s a normal, not hurtful time, everyone is going to hear it in the context of this accident. It’s not a secret, you don’t have to be smart, and you don’t have to be brave to say it.
I don’t care that Ebert has no tact or whatever. Ebert is a moral coward. What does he have to get through in the next few months or years that is related to this? How hard is ANYTHING that he’s going to have to do related to this going to be for him? He’s an old man who knows exactly how hurtful he’s being to people that DO HAVE a LOT to get through. And he that it took NOTHING as far as effort or intelligence, or courage for him to say it, and he did it anyway.
I normally only post snarky pictures every now and then, so this is gonna be a little weird. Because I’m going to be serious. But, Ebert had every right to do what he did. I don’t say this as someone who knew someone who died because of drunk driving on either side of the fence. I say this as someone who was once arrested for drunk driving.
A lot of people are going to rationalize what Dunn did. The first thing my parents said to me after I told them was, “Well, everyone’s done it, you just got caught.” I have no doubt there are people who are thinking the same way about Dunn: “Everyone does it, he just made a mistake.” Because he’s a celebrity he’s already being canonized, and his death is being seen as a tragedy. It’s not. It was completely avoidable.
I understand the request for tact, but what’s being lost here isn’t that he made a mistake that killed himself. What’s being lost is, he made a choice that killed another man. I feel bad for Dunn’s family and friends because I can empathize with the kind of public shame they’re being put through (though, I’ll readily admit I’ll never be able to understand their pain), but to ignore the circumstances surrounding his death solely due to grief is disingenuous and white-washing the legitimate tragedy: the other man’s death. I could have killed someone. He did. We’re both jackasses.
Move over lat year’s summer of death, it’s the summer of heroes going down.
You know that thing when you follow your favorite musicians on Twitter and then you hate all of their music two weeks later?
That was me with Roger Ebert long before this incident. I truly feel sorry about his health situation and have a great respect for a lot of his work. He was a major influence on my tastes growing up, but the guy is a self-important ego-inflated asshole (you kind of have to be to be a professional critic right? (Don’t get me wrong I LOVE critics (triple parenthesis!)))
My Point? Ebert has set plenty of precedents for the anger directed at him over this. He is TOTALLY the type of guy that would sacrifice dignity in the name of a clever (not so clever?) quip.
Ya I think the tweet was a douche move and the apology was a douchier move. I like what Vince at Film Drunk said about it. Its like Ebert was scared to say he carelessly made a fucked up joke so he chose to defend it senselessly rather than saying ‘my bad’.
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