Jeff Tweedy is the latest artist to take us through his writing process for the Song Exploder podcast. He broke down “Magnetized,” the closing track from Star Wars, Wilco’s surprise album from earlier this year. Tweedy talks for about 10 minutes — about his improvisational studio approach (“the joy of it is the discovery,” he says), the interplay of the band even though most of them live in different places, and letting go of his ego to write the song — and then you can listen to the song in full. Check it out below.

Star Wars is out now via Anti-/dBpm.