Taylor Swift’s 1989 just got nominated for a bunch of Grammys, including one for Album Of The Year, which seems like an opportune time for TMZ to leak this video of Jared Leto shit-talking the album. It seems to have been shot a few months ago during whatever recording sessions were going on for 30 Seconds To Mars’ next musical monstrosity, and it features Leto talking about some Swift singles with his bandmates and not having very nice things to say about any of them. He does admit he likes “Blank Space,” though, and suggests Swift is emulating a certain “Charli XX,” presumably meaning Charli XCX. He also hears “Starbucks lovers,” which I’m still not entirely convinced isn’t some super low-key product placement. He concludes very succinctly: “I mean, fuck her, I don’t give a fuck about her. It’s whatever works best for us.” Watch the video below.

This is Leto probably mansplaining something to Swift at a 2014 Golden Globes afterparty:

From last year's #GoldenGlobes @Instyle afterparty with Taylor Swift and Jared Leto. pic.twitter.com/lN48pmVsqn

— Marlow Stern (@MarlowNYC) January 12, 2015

When did everything go so wrong?

UPDATE: Leto apologized.

The truth is I think @taylorswift13 is amazing + an incredible example of what's possible. If I hurt her or her fans my sincerest apologies.

— JARED LETO (@JaredLeto) December 7, 2015