Stereogum has never heard of ANY of these bands (except Panic!). But we like a good fight scene (scene fight?). Laura, can you fill us in?

From Absolute Punk’s Q&A with “post-screamo” (?!) band Saosin.

I was going to ask you ? what bands can you not fucking stand?
All: From First to Last.
Alex: We fucking hate that band, and you can print that. They?re on our label. I think they?re so clichéd.
Cove: For the record, I think Sonny is a nice guy. You can say Cove thinks Sonny is a nice guy.
Justin: I am not saying they are shitty guys, I am saying their band sucks. There is a big difference.

Didn?t you produce their first record?
Beau: I remixed their record. It came out and sounded like dogshit. So Brett at Epitaph asked me to remix it for them. The re-released it and didn?t even put my name in the credits. They kept the old mixer?s name in the credits. It was kind of a bum out. I thought there was a couple good songs by them on that record, and then I produced a song from them on the Smartpunk comp, but the new album by them just blows.
Cove: They had about four or five good songs.
Justin: You know how we were talking about the scene thing? That is the kind of band that is going to be here today, gone tomorrow.
Alex: And our A&R guy at Capitol is the guy that signed them. We gave him so much shit about that.
Beau: Especially because we were going to sign with Epitaph, we decided not to sign with them so they signed From First to Last. And then we signed with Capitol and it seems like they kind of followed. It has kind of bummed me out that I did that stuff for them, and that is what happened. Another reason I am not so sure about them is that they were saying that we sucked and that they hated us. And I was wondering what we ever did to them.

That is pretty bad when From First to Last is saying that you guys suck. That is low.
Justin: And we are pretty much the most normal band out there. We don?t have a bunch of red eyeliner on. We?re not super-eccentric. We?re pretty normal dudes. I have tattoos and that is about as far as it goes. It is not like we are easy targets.

It?s not like you go out of your way to piss bands off.
Justin: Exactly. That is what got us here. We would make friends with good bands and they would take us out. We got on some killer tours because bands have been cool to us.

Any other bands?
Alex: I don?t like Aiden.
Justin: Aiden are nice dudes.
Beau: Yeah they really are awesome dudes.
Justin: But yeah Panic and the whole Fueled By Ramen type of shit.
Beau: It is kind of how Drive-Thru was for a while.
Justin: Everyone who is cool to us, we are pretty cool to them.

Nice balls on that interviewer! What bands do you hate?Yeah, that band totally said you suck.Who else do you hate?That’s it? You sure?

Comments (53)
  1. tobias funke  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    wow, it’s like watching a fight in a special ed class.

  2. jack  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    honestly, panic, saosin, and FFTF all suck. the only thing from any of them worth listening to is Saosin’s debut ep, Translating the Name, and that’s ONLY because it had Anthony Green on it. Anyone who has heard the ep will testify that it was fucking unreal. solely due to Anthony Green. but he left. and now they’re crap.

  3. Apexa  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    What the hell is the point of saying you can’t stand certain screamo/emo band when they all sound exactly the same?

  4. post-screamo: hmm.. who won that category last year at the houston music awards?

  5. seamus  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    i totally remember my first high school band…

  6. When is Brandon Flowers going to enter this one?

  7. Saosin blow.
    PATD suck.
    FFTL bite.
    Next?

  8. Everyone take off your white belts, Belt Fight!!! I’ll take off mine and photo pictures of my penis, then I’ll use it as a weapon to fight!

  9. Old guy..  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    That brand of skinny wimps screaming about nothing music was horrible 10 + years ago..
    why it has become the soup du jour of todays rock’n youth is a mystery to me..

    the eye liner and girl jeans only add to the horribleness of it..

    its not punk . its not hardcore . its not even rock..

    make it stop please.. stop signing this bands please

  10. kennn  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    i can’t believe you reposted that shite.

  11. Dan  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    When will emo get the respect it deserves? I was at Pitchfork, Warped Tour, and Lollapalooza all within about a week in chicago and the warped tour was in a different class. The fans were rabid and the bands loved every second of it. The emo/screamo movement is something to be respected. If anyone is gonna change the atrocious state of this country its gonna be those kids singing every word of Underoath and Thursday. Trust me, all us BSS fans just want to play frisbee and lay in the sun.

  12. Saosin are the worst of the lot and are only slightly popular due to that eejit Anthony Green, and even he left them… That says something right there.

  13. Jen  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    To the comment made by Dan: A bunch of eyeliner wearing, girl-pants wearing, self-centered, hairsprayed teenage boys aren’t going to change the “state of this country”. Crying about what your ex-girlfriend/parents/the world did to you is going to do nothing but depress other teens who aren’t mature enough to understand that everyone goes through stages like that. I used to be into emo/screamo stuff, so I know what you’re talking about. Those kids just need to learn to be theirselves and not go after a look. I believe that just like any other fad, this one will be whiped out. And what’s really going to change the world is music that actually sends a good message. Wake up.

  14. dude  |   Posted on Aug 22nd, 2006 0

    So, all the people making a difference in today’s generation are the rabid hair band fans of the 80′s? They knew all the words and I’m sure the bands dug it. Actually musical taste don’t mean shite.

  15. Aiden are awesome. Panic! is kinda gay, but that’s why I like ‘em.

  16. They’re all equally bland and unexciting, and this doesn’t concern me. Hell, why am I even commenting? I don’t even listen to these kinds of bands…

  17. Evan  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    FFTL really do suck, trust me. Look up the word “scene” in the dictionary” and you’ll find them scowling back at you on the page. Can someone tell me WTF that term even means, anyway? Isn’t every kind of music a “scene” e.g. the hip hop scene, the country scene, the indie scene etc.? That’s kind of like classifying a type of music as “genre.”

  18. Matthew  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    what do they think of circa survive?

  19. Brian  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    Are you kidding me? Anthony Green is a shitty vocalist. I mean, Circa Survive would’ve been good, if only Anthony Green didn’t fuck it up with his drugged-down vocals, and that dude sucks on stage, no matter which project he plays with. The only thing I could recommend to that fucker is to stop with the Cocaine + Alcohol mixture overdose.

    Did I forget to mention, Anthony does a load of Cocaine every night before he goes on live (no matter) with whatever band he’s playing with at that time?

  20. Brian  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    Matthew: For the record, Beau thinks Circa Survive blows, and that his band is better than “that sissy” James Blunt.

  21. nick  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    how is a 16 year old wearing tight jeans and eyeliner to fit into a “scene” any different from a 24 year old who wears american apparel and grows a beard?

    everyone at warped tour looked the same. everyone at the pitchfork festival looked the same. who fucking cares.

  22. Bryan  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    The fact that this band does not get that the interviewer is making fun of them and their statements is pretty sad.

  23. Evan  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    All of these bands suck so freaking hard. Please tell these so called musicians to write songs in a different key and to not be so fucking wordy in their songwriting. By wordy I do not mean that they use too many big words, far from it. It’s that their songs are filled with too many words. Look at say a pop song, by the Shins, or Big Star, or the Beatles, or any band that writes at least passable melodies and lyrics. They have choruses and hooks and word spacing that is designed to get into your head and stay there. When I hear emo, all I hear and bands that complain about their relationships and suburban liestyle, in the most untuneful, long-winded way. Please realize that you will not affect the cultural landscape in any positive way and that you are doing the world a disservice by continuing in this way. Please cease and dissist. All of you. ASAP.

  24. Evan  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    *lifestyle

  25. To be fair, anyone is better than James Blunt.

  26. bryan  |   Posted on Aug 23rd, 2006 0

    yep. the only band that matters in this post is saosin and that is only becuase of their debut EP. even they suck now.

  27. God  |   Posted on Sep 9th, 2006 0

    I like cheese. (has as much significance as any other comment in this thread)

  28. Lisa  |   Posted on Oct 8th, 2006 0

    Shut up

  29. caorlyn  |   Posted on Dec 23rd, 2006 0

    SAOSIN SUCKS ASS…circa survive is so much better…anthonys vocals are on point.

  30. Pyro  |   Posted on Dec 30th, 2006 0

    Ok, I like Emo/Screamo, Post-hardcore or “Gay music” if you call it that way but I don’t wear tight girl jeans or eyeliner or nail polish or whatever, but lets be real, this emo music movement is not any different than the time when glam rock was popular, actually it’s WORSE, look up any glam rock bands, they dress so much worse than emo kids today. As far as lyrically speaking, songwriters make songs that sound good to them that make them feel better or share personal things with listeners. THERE IS NO BETTER BAND, no matter the number of people that prove you wrong. BTW, I like saosin, fftl, and a little bit panic. If you wanna diss a band, diss Good Charlotte, they dress like emos and play fucking pop rock, that’s just wrong.

  31. Eloy  |   Posted on Jan 2nd, 2007 0

    Anthony green is amazing as a musician all around, check out the sound of animals fighting if u dont like emo, theyre more experimental, and circa survive is hardly emo.

    check out anthony greens solo stuff as well, its amazing. and the thing about the cocaine, its a rumor, not sure if its true. -eloy

    add me on myspace if u want to talk more, myspace.com/eastwoodeloy

  32. eloy  |   Posted on Jan 2nd, 2007 0

    (accidently hit enter)
    sunny is a very bad vocalist, he stresses way more then he needs to, and panic at the discos only talent in the band is the drummer. i respect saosin, even with cove tho.

    but either way, im a huge anthony green fan…Anthony is amazing as a musician all around, check out the sound of animals fighting if u dont like emo, theyre more experimental, and circa survive is hardly emo.

    check out anthony greens solo stuff as well, its amazing. and the thing about the cocaine, its a rumor, not sure if its true. -eloy

    add me on myspace if u want to talk more, myspace.com/eastwoodeloy

  33. Music is music. End of story. Getting into online fights about it? That is completely foolish. I mean, sharing your opinion, I can completely respect that, but dissing other bands, and not respecting others opinions is just stupid.
    And to the people who disrespect others opinions, but then get all pissy when people do it right back to you: GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.
    Honestly.

  34. Music is music. End of story. Getting into online fights about it? That is completely foolish. I mean, sharing your opinion, I can completely respect that, but dissing other bands, and not respecting others opinions is just stupid.
    And to the people who disrespect others opinions, but then get all pissy when people do it right back to you: GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.
    Honestly.

  35. Music is music. End of story. Getting into online fights about it? That is completely foolish. I mean, sharing your opinion, I can completely respect that, but dissing other bands, and not respecting others opinions is just stupid.
    And to the people who disrespect others opinions, but then get all pissy when people do it right back to you: GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.
    Honestly.

  36. Music is music. End of story. Getting into online fights about it? That is completely foolish. I mean, sharing your opinion, I can completely respect that, but dissing other bands, and not respecting others opinions is just stupid.
    And to the people who disrespect others opinions, but then get all pissy when people do it right back to you: GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.
    Honestly.

  37. Music is music. End of story. Getting into online fights about it? That is completely foolish. I mean, sharing your opinion, I can completely respect that, but dissing other bands, and not respecting others opinions is just stupid.
    And to the people who disrespect others opinions, but then get all pissy when people do it right back to you: GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.
    Honestly.

  38. its an interview, read it, you dont have to voice your opinion that saosin sucks.. dont read the article.. if you like anthony green listen to circa survive and just dont talk about saosin that simple

  39. kawai  |   Posted on Jul 23rd, 2007 0

    dude.
    i love saosin but uhhh alex is mean.
    shit.

    well regardless of how bad a band “sucks” i still wouldn’t say anything about them cause it takes a hell of A LOT of work to even get anywhere.
    dang.

  40. brutal joe  |   Posted on Aug 1st, 2007 0

    LISTEN TO TECHNICAL BRUTAL DEATH METAL AND STOP BEING PUSSIES!!!!!!

  41. i think everyone shuld get over it if you dont like the band then just dont listen to them..its pretty simple because leave the band to the people who do listen its your opinon not everyone agrees

  42. rafael  |   Posted on Oct 20th, 2008 0

    hey dude please stop saying that FFTL and aiden sounds sucks, saosin for now is WORST band ever watch the version of cove in 7 years that’s very pretty shit! you don’t have to say that FFTL and aiden sounds sucks because they are better than saosin now every band changes but saosin changed so fuckin’ crazy that’s a hell of shit! saosin was doing great when anthony is there but now i don’t like saosin anymore.. ALEX is so boastfull im outta here..

  43. Daniel  |   Posted on Nov 30th, 2008 0

    Look at grunge, metal heads from the 80′s thought that grunge defeated the whole purpose of “feel good, party metal”, and then grunge revolutionized the American music scene. Emo has kind of done the same thing.

  44. ok people im pretty sure this is fake
    but i still think it’s pretty sad that TWO OF MY FAVORITE BANDS r like this to each other i mean c’mon music is music, love it , hate it, it don’t matter, you should keep fights from coming out cuz not only do the bands and labels get involved, but of course the FANS DO. and C’MON GIVE BURCHELL SOME CREDIT FOR HIS WORK

  45. dom  |   Posted on Feb 2nd, 2009 0

    alright so,
    saosin is alright with cove, but anthony green was deffinately better.
    cove’s version of “seven years” deffinately sucks ass, but “mookie’s last christmas (acoustic)” is actually not bad.
    panic! is ohhkay, i guess, but nothing to really talk about.
    from first to last was good up until heroine, then they started to blow ass.
    circa survive is one of my favorite bands; everyone who says they suck obviously ate lead paint chips as a kid, and/or got dropped on their head multiple times.
    the sound of animals fighting isn’t really anything to talk about either; i mean, they’re ohhkay, but nothing special.
    aiden is pretty good, but i don’t listen to them much.
    and anthony greens solo stuff is pretty fcking sweet.
    and to even this out so nobody’s like “ohh you’re just another scene kid protecting your shitty bands,” i also listen to poison, lynyrd skynyrd, the beatles, nirvana, alice and chains, the devil wears prada, joan jett, and tom petty.
    just to name a few.
    so everyone just chill the fck out, honestly.

  46. Eric  |   Posted on Mar 16th, 2009 0

    u kno i rly hate how people label only this music as emo…my gawd…first of all, music from all genres sing about their ex girlfriends..think about tht…everything from rap to ranchero. even ur heaviest death metal bands will sing about tht. i listen to a record from a band..alot of the time, only SUM songs are about stuff like tht…then look at kanye wests new album..EVERY song is about how his gf broke up with him -.-…as well as with a lot of other rap too..so thts emo music too now?

    secondly, most of tht genre of music has moved on quite a bit…post-hardcore is wat is is rly..if u even hav to put a label on it..listen to four year strong for example..thts not emo -.-..or a day to remember….seriously…people shouldnt be talkin shit about eachother like this…our music is about the same things dum fuks..

    also +infinity to the dudde tht mentioned 80′s hair metal..at least emo kids arent wearing high heels and lip stick so shut the hell up already, this aint nothin new. this is how music has been since is started to stop complaining about it, it isnt going to change

  47. Caroline  |   Posted on Dec 5th, 2009 0

    I like almost all the bands mentioned here, but I never listened to Saosin… not sure I will, now, since they’re talking shit about my favourite band From First To Last…

  48. logdog  |   Posted on Dec 7th, 2009 0

    I can’t wait for this crap genre to die out, it makes post grunge, new wave and hair metal look great in comparison, hell id even rather probably listen to rap than this. along with autotune this has to be the worst days of mainstream music that there ever has been and i have to point to my generation as having the worst taste in shit of all time, hell why else would transformers 2 make so much damn money… stupidity and extreme lack of taste. You mention hair metal and that was truly bad but nothing in comparison to the mainstream these days, most popular bands even make poison look good in comparison and they make the crue look like gods. I hope emo/screamo/post hardcore along with deathcore die a horrible death. even nu metal was better than this because at least nu metal bands dont take themselves so seriously.

  49. Justin  |   Posted on Dec 11th, 2009 0

    You would of had to been at the philly show where they recorded come close. Cove screams for seven years was aggressive and amazing. He was note for note that night and I was there. towards the front.Anthonys screams are more high pitch while coves remain aggressive and lower. I prefer aggressive and lower. Puts me in a better mood for moshing.

  50. Justin  |   Posted on Dec 11th, 2009 0

    You would of had to been at the philly show where they recorded come close. Cove screams for seven years was aggressive and amazing. He was note for note that night and I was there. towards the front.Anthonys screams are more high pitch while coves remain aggressive and lower. I prefer aggressive and lower. Puts me in a better mood for moshing.

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