The band’s third LP moved over 33K albums in the first week to land at #8 providing, at the very least, an objective metric for the > or < Merriweather debate. Veckatimest comes in behind the likes of Eminem, Green Day, Hannah Montana, Lady GaGa, and Kenny Chesney. Which is really weird.

Comments (116)
  1. EnchantingWizardofRhythm  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Wow, I’m not the biggest fan of Grizzly Bear (for me it’s like drinking cough medicine on a rainy night) but this is great news…anything to break the shitty mainstream mold

  2. Jack  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Why is that really weird? Over- hyping a band will sell albums. The same people who buy the new eminim and greenday want to appear ahead of the curve. I remember seeing Arcade Fire alongside of Let Love in (goo goo dolls) and the new Carrie Underwood in peoples CD collections. Not to say the buyers actually LIKE the music (or music in general)

  3. WOO  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    This is fucking amazing! Amazing album deserves recognition and gets it!!! Biggest indie debut this year? HURRAH!



  5. Who doesn’t like it when an indie band finally breaks through?

    • a lot of people

    • KJK  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

      “Who doesn’t like it when an indie band finally breaks through?”
      the people who have to deal with 100% more douchebags at shows

      • It just seems like the band’s hard work has paid off and they finally get what they deserve. With an album as masterful as Veckatimist, it seems like any kind of chart performance is deserved.

      • YES to the douchebag observation. I don’t care who listens to what. I don’t care if my favorite band gets popular. But the increased douchebag quotient at shows is terrible.

        Case in point: Modest Mouse. Saw them in 2001. Great show, great crowd. Saw them in 2008. Great show, douchebag crowd factor increased tenfold. Girls in tube tops and mini skirts were getting on stage and trying to freak dance with Isaac Brock. In the middle of songs.

    • God forbid the band makes money or something like that…

  6. Me  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Grizzly Bear > Billboard

  7. h8 when mainstreamers buy CDs

    sux so bad when bands earn a living

  8. pedro  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Hannah Montana > Green Day

  9. Grizzly Bear > Eminem

  10. TD  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    One of these days I’ll remember not read comment posts when good things happen to good bands.
    It’s interesting how the drop in music sales overall has allowed more indie bands to chart on Billboard. In the long haul I hope it gives a boost to indie exposure and sales.

  11. Val  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    My congratulations to Grizzly Bear. They definitely exceeded my expectations when they played the 9:30 Club on Monday.

    Now, answer me this. Why the continued coverage about whether this album is better or worse than Merriweather Post Pavilion? Because of the web sheriff scandal earlier this year? While that might have made sense in January, the continued mentions of whether or not Grizzly Bear is better than Animal Collective or vice versa seems like you’re elongating a nonexistent conflict and it’s really kind of irritating. I mean, I could be missing something, but I don’t think the bands are outwardly fighting…or even outwardly care much. Both have a lot of the same fans and both put out more pop-friendly yet experimentally minded with fantastic harmonies. I don’t see at what point it becomes a competition.

    • People are comparing the two because there the frontrunners for best album of 09. I still think it’s stupid and immature.

    • moi  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

      I totally agree, although after the 930 show, I was tempted to post Grizzly Bear live > Animal Collective live. Hands down.

    • i was at both anco and grizzly bear 930 club shows and enjoyed anco significantly more. i love gbear but felt like they were much better in a smaller venue when i saw them a couple years ago. music was great but they weren’t that visually captivating for such a large venue.

    • I agree. I hate this trend. Love 2009 as a year in music, but in the context of this annoying “< ", ">“, and “=” trend, I’ll be glad when 2009 is over (or whenever Pitchfork puts out their Top 50 year-end list).

    • Val  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

      I will actually say that the two had shows of comparable awesomeness at the 9:30 Club and that Grizzly Bear may have even edged out Animal Collective. Animal Collective’s show at the Ottobar, in Baltimore, however? Unmatched. By anyone. But as I mentioned – these two bands don’t exist in conflict for me. I’d kind of like to see them tour together, actually.

  12. is it really indie when it’s on billboard? we need to start talking sell out here guys. c’mon.

  13. grats  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Good for them.

    Now they can afford to buy more cool shit, rent another house somewhere, and record more brilliant songs. Congrats to them and us.

  14. Ben Z.  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    man! i feel so fortunate to be shackled to my desk at work writing comments on a music blog and NOT out there in the world selling 33,000 albums for an exponentially growing fanbase! only sellouts gain fans! and only washed-up, over-hyped hacks get to spend the next few years of their twenties touring the world and getting paid really well for it. sign me up for my bi-weekly paycheck and my Groundhog Day of a life! who wants to sell out and actually be successful?!
    thanks Grizzly Bear, for showing all of us exactly what NOT to aspire to.

    • wavves rules  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

      Touring is overrated. Ask Nathan Williams.

    • i know what you mean. I wish I was Grizzly Bear. I’m sure their going to be really successful over the next ten years. They’re the next Nirvana. I mean c’mon guys. Let’s make them super famous. really we can do it. if I’m not listening to some skinny dudes that live in brooklyn then i’m not listening to music, that much i know. where would I even find music without pitchfork and stereogum? The radio? Please. All that’s on the radio is top 40 billiboard charting…wait a sec

  15. Nathan Williams  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Yeah, touring sucks.

  16. Doesn’t this just validate our point that this MOR music? Simple, easily digestible, mainstream music that’ll be played happily in Nordstrom’s. I hope you do put this on your top albums of 2009, so that people will realize that this is a mainstream pop blog.
    One more time. Read this for more clarity:

    • RC  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0


    • hmmno  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

      puhhleeasse nicuh

    • I think it’s pretty shitty to more or less imply that success for these guys must mean that they made boring music that the stupid Hannah Montana-loving public will just eat up. In that blog post you say you’re sure they’re nice guys and you wish them well, so what’s wrong with Grizzly Bear coming into success after years of hard work? Are you saying that any indie band who gains some mainstream success must have done so by making insipid music? Because the way you said it certainly implies that.

      I disagree with your opinions on the music itself, but that’s different. If Veckatimest isn’t your thing, that’s fine, but all of this putting them down just because they’re selling albums is ridiculous.

      • What I clearly said is that MOR is simple, non-challenging music. I don’t recall Radiohead or Interpol achieving sales of this magnitude this quickly (excluding the Creep single). I love the genre that Grizzly Bear occupies; Band of Horses and Iron & Wine are personal favorites. But those bands write complex, beautiful melodies and thus will never reach the heights of….Grizzly Bear, who dumb the genre down for people……

        • Sanjay  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

          Last time I checked Interpol’s 3rd album debuted at #4 and Radiohead’s 3rd album was called OK Computer. I certainly dont know what Grizzly Bear album you’ve been listening to but I wouldnt say they are in the same genre as Band of Horses or Iron & Wine. Grizzly Bear has a sort of chamber pop sound to them and while they might not be “complex” as you describe they certainly dont resemble any mainstream music out there that would perceive them as dumbed-down. I like Band of Horses and Iron & Wine but what Grizzly Bear are doing is just way more special.

        • you  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

          You obviously don’t know ANYTHING about music, because honestly band of horses and Iron and wine, while perfectly fine, are far FAR more amateur and simple than Grizzly Bear, who use non traditional chord progressions and interesting harmonies. Band of Horses and Iron and Wine and Fleet Foxes are your meat and potatoes that’s fine and all, but Grizzly Bear are FAR more inventive you just don’t understand musically how much more complex they are. Sorry, that means YOU are stupid

        • Whoa dude… did I not specifically say that I didn’t really have a problem with your opinion on Veckatimest? As I said before, I don’t agree with you, but my comment took issue with the fact that you said Grizzly Bear’s recent chart success proves that they made crappy music, NOT the fact that you dislike their their music. As far as I can tell that makes you the one who can’t understand what was “clearly” stated. And I think insulting my taste in music was uncalled for and unrelated to my criticism, especially seeing as I gave you that respect, but hey, that’s just me. I guess that’s what I get for attempting to be civil on the internet.

          For the record, I liked Veckatimest a lot, and I like Grizzly Bear’s past work a lot too. I don’t think they’re breaking the mold, but I hear a lot of the same things you were just talking about with Band of Horses and Iron and Wine (I quite like both of those bands too, speaking of which, although I’m not so sure they’re the same genre) in Grizzly Bear. I would go as far as saying, as another commenter did, that Grizzly Bear are the most complex and interesting band of the three – but that’s only to my ears and you’re more than welcome to feel otherwise. I’m generally not the type to question someone’s intelligence over a band. But since we’re apparently playing nasty now, then I’ll go ahead and say I think comparing them to latter-day Steely Dan and Phil Collins (as you did at your blog) is hyperbolic. I don’t think pretty music (or even simple music, for that matter) automatically equates to adult alternative crap, and even though you’re criticizing Grizzly Bear for being “non-challenging”, I sincerely doubt that every single band you listen to is a cutting-edge innovator. I would certainly hesitate to throw Band of Horses and Iron and Wine in such a category.

          And like someone else said, if we’re comparing the third albums of alternative and indie bands to Veckatimest now… Radiohead’s third album (a little record called OK Computer) debuted at #1 in the UK and #21 in the US, was immensely hyped all over the place, and today is triple-platinum in the UK alone. So I don’t really get where you’re going with that little point.

    • DiscoInfiltrator  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

      I would have to wholeheartedly disagree with you.

      This conception of middle of the road music is simply too subject to changing opinions and taste to really be applicable to this situation.

      The complexity of music has nothing to do with the how harmonious it might sound to someone’s ears.

      I would cite Classical music as an example of this. To many it is easy listening but the complexity of the harmonies and movements through chord progressions and scales puts classical music in the realm of some of the most complicated music ever created.

      the complexity comes from the interplay of musical ideas, however pleasing to the ear they might be.

      Though decidedly less complex than classical music, Grizzly Bear’s work is ultimately about the same ideas something that has been absent from prominence in rock/pop music since punk really.

      Is it new? No but it is an interesting take on an old trick especially in the use of atmospheric effects and processing.

      Is it about the lyrics? Hardly this band is about as formal as they get but I don’t think that should be held against them. Some artists trend toward lyrical content and others towards an interest in musical forms themselves. Grizzly bear chooses almost exclusively to tackle the latter.


      WHAT’S WRONG WITH MAKING MUSIC PEOPLE LIKE? The sort of cultural elitism that seeks to keep indie music indie is the same sort of bullshit that feeds blogs like Pitchfork. Maybe the bloggers have gotten old or maybe people have just caught up to their taste.

      And to me that’s great. Cause if I never read another smug/condescending pitchfork review excerpt I’ll die a happy man. Maybe these blogger can final hang their hats up and enjoy their music for themselves again without feeling the need to dictate their tastes to the world.

      The world would be no less impoverished by the loss of another music snobs opinion posted all over the web.

      Thank you and good night.

    • michael Skinnider  |   Posted on Jun 5th, 2009 0

      the fact that something is accessible doesn’t mean it’s bad
      pop music can be catchy and innovative at the same time
      that’s what the best of it does

  17. sonokrug  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    this past decade has seen the popularization of indie, as a relatively obscure band’s success has become old hat. congrads to the artists, but i liked it better when i could claim that my tastes were unique.

  18. AnCo Mpp peaked at 13, don’t know what they did right (two weeks) but I guess it’s paying off.

  19. chris  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Big cheer for blog hype. Pretty soon we’ll be tracking the “charts” on rather than Billboard. Seriously, who buys records anymore????

  20. Well, Rolling Stone posted a “Breaking” column on them today.

    Anyhoo, I bought a digital album on Amazon (like 4 bucks!) does that counts? Or is this a CD-only stat?

    Either way, I love this album! Well worth not caving to the leaks.

  21. no  |   Posted on Jun 3rd, 2009 0

    Please do not call them “AnCo”.

  22. Willie  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    So, lemme get this straight. Grizzly Bear go Billboard top 10, and they’re being applauded for their quality performance and hard work. Kings of Leon take a shower and the torches come out.

    God bless the internet and all its fickle, fickle friends.

    P.S. Don’t bother with the “KoL sux” comments, I heard all that from Pitchfork already and won’t be back in this thread to read it again; I just felt compelled to say something. Just give me my -20 and send me on my way.

  23. IngaSvensson  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    Hi, sorry to go off topic, but my sister graduates on Tuesday and I really need to find her a cool gift that she will remember forever?

    Anyone who knows a really unique gift that doesn’t cost a fortune?

  24. Grizzly Bear does appear to have a wider span of appeal than Animal Collective. I’ve held that personal belief since Yellow House, and now apparently I have Billboard backing me up. Animal Collective is great don’t get me wrong, but their tribal undertones (on this album) are understandably not going to penetrate the bubble that is the American music scene as well as Grizzly Bear’s smooth amalgamation of folk and ’50s pop. And Grizzly Bear did this in 3 albums, compared to Animal Collective’s collection, which brings up another point that Animal Collective’s lack of sound direction from album to album may also play a role.

  25. ben  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    incredible and AWESOME!

  26. Vicky >Mary Yay!!!

  27. I was just curious as to why people jump up and down when an “indie” band breaks through. How are GB any different from some of the other acts on there? I’m sure they have a manager, tour manager, merch people, roadies, etc. helping them out. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that and I would suspect that one would NEED all those people to help further their career. However, make no mistake, there is NOTHING independent about these guys, or Arcade Fire, or Animal Collective, etc.

  28. letsgocrazy  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    This is not a dis on Grizzly Bear, but there sound is much safer to the public than Animal Collective. I love both bands, but Animal Collective are shifting gears in their overall sound from record to record, which is more appealing for some listeners, but not for others. I don’t think Animal Collective have a lack of ‘sound’ direction what so ever. Also, Grizzly Bear opening for Radiohead gave them a heck of a lot more exposure as well. Still MPP sold 25K the first week, which is still mighty impressive for AC. Cheers to both bands.

  29. this band and this post deserve a keyboard cat mocking:

  30. 2nose  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    debut as in ‘it debuted in the top 10′. stop being so fucking critical.

    phenomenal first week for a phenomenal album from a phen…awesome band. I cannot permit myself more than 2 phenomenals per sentence.

  31. 2nose  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    debut as in ‘it debuted in the top 10′. stop being so fucking critical.

    phenomenal first week for a phenomenal album from a phen…awesome band. I cannot permit myself more than 2 phenomenals per sentence.

  32. Darvin  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    Yes, the $4 amazon purchases count towards the total. $120,000 in sales could’ve put an album at #8 on Billboard this week. Not implying anything here

  33. sigh  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    wow, so happy for grizzly bear, top 10 record. that means they made about 100 bucks each.

    i will whoop it for real when they get a live nation contract.

  34. bg  |   Posted on Jun 4th, 2009 0

    Does the fact that best Buy sells Grizzly Bear and Neko Case for $8 their debut week have anything to do with this?

    Good music, but Merriweather>Veckatimest!

  35. Sanjay  |   Posted on Jun 5th, 2009 0

    If you read Billboard’s article I believe it says that 40% of the sales were downloads. A band like this shouldn’t be having that much of a percentage of sales be downloads. Especially after all the hoopla over the crappy leaked version. I really dont see Grizzly Bear fans as casual listeners. I’ve never bought from iTunes but what is it like a dollar per song? Your going to pay about the same or even less if you buy the CD and then you can rip it to a much better quality. Buy from Independent music stores!!!

  36. chris  |   Posted on Jun 5th, 2009 0

    Some band is gonna break. It’s gonna be 1991 again soon.

  37. Nick Jonas (spy)  |   Posted on Jun 5th, 2009 0

    I think Grizzly Bear can claim more fans than Billboard can claim readers (or carers).

  38. Badger_Dash  |   Posted on Jun 6th, 2009 0

    Grizzly Bear < “<“

  39. AnnaNoble  |   Posted on Jun 6th, 2009 0

    I found the best thing to my friend’s birthday? It’s really hard to find cool and still unique.
    So today I saw this thing from ZTARLET on facebook where you can name a real star in the sky and have the certificate and a teddy bear sent to you and pay it by a single SMS. So awesome :)

  40. nick  |   Posted on Jun 6th, 2009 0

    I don’t know how making it to 8 on billboard, in this particular case, means that Grizzly Bear has gone mainstream, or was widely purchased by the mainstream. Is it that hard to believe that there have been 33,000+ GB fans over the last couple years and they were all excited enough to buy the album when it came out? Perhaps the population of sarcastic music snobs is much larger we all think.

  41. Yes?  |   Posted on Jun 7th, 2009 0

    There’s an article about Grizzly Bear in Time magazine this week, so they might be a little more popular than alot of you commenters are making them out to be.

  42. cale  |   Posted on Jun 7th, 2009 0

    1) Southern Point (rossen)- 0
    2) Two Weeks(droste)- 5
    3) All We Ask( rossen)- 3
    4) cheerleader (droste)-4.5
    5) Dory(rossen)-1
    6) Ready able(droste) 4.5
    7) About Face( droste) 5
    8) Hold still (rossen)-0
    9) While you Wait for The others(rossen)-4
    10) I live with you(rossen)-0
    11) Foreground( droste)- 4

    Pretty much Daniel Rossen ruined this record.. He must do a lot of the arranging or be really sensitive.. Because Droste should have definately told him that Dory, Hold Still, Southern Point, and I live With You were awful songs.. They tried to do the best they could to save them,, But a non existent melody is a non existent melody.. I

  43. Billy Homey  |   Posted on Jun 8th, 2009 0

    Thank you for taking the time to score every song. So helpful. SO HELPFUL.

  44. Cale  |   Posted on Jun 8th, 2009 0

    Fine For Now-2.5

    Southern point and Dory are not good.. In fact they anger me.. because they make it so I cant just let this record play all the way through..

    When everyone is singing.. While you Wait for The Others is a 5.. so the chorus.. but not the verse.

    • I’m already tired of Cheerleader and Two Weeks, yes due partly to the fact that they are singles, bu compared to the other (Rossen) songs, these two have no depth. Southern Point and Dory are great. Both sound like they could have come off of Yellow House.

  45. Original post by mattusmaximus

  46. cale  |   Posted on Jun 8th, 2009 0

    Southern Point and Dory have no melody though… You don’t really like those songs.. YOu’re just not listening carefully..

  47. Good for them. After all the hoopla about having this album leaked months prior, I’m glad to see people still bought it. Granted, I’m not included, but I’m seeing them in a couple of weeks! They get more money touriing anyway right? RIGHT?

  48. Cale  |   Posted on Jun 8th, 2009 0

    Top Ten albums of the year so far….

    1) Animal Collective- Merriweather Post Pavillion
    2) The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart- The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart
    3) The Dream- Love Vs. Money
    4) Phoenix- Wolfgang Amadeaus Phoenix
    5) Lotus Plaza- The floodlight Collective
    6) Dan Deacon- Bromst
    7) Dirty Projectors- Bitte Orca
    8) Antony And the Johnstons- The Crying light
    9) Grizzly Bear- Veckatimest
    10) Tiny Vipers- Life On Earth

    • eh  |   Posted on Jun 9th, 2009 0

      bad list. Veck should be #1 and MPP should be nowhere within the top 20

      it’s not really that good

      • Cale  |   Posted on Jun 9th, 2009 0

        Yes it is. not only is it #1.. But its miles ahead of every other release this year.. this nothing even in the same League…Now Veckatimest probably will fall out of the top 20 by years end… And Bitte Orca will probably go up.. it keeps getting better!

      • Cale  |   Posted on Jun 10th, 2009 0

        How can you judge the list when you”ve only heard two of the records on it??

        • You are either going to school for political science/music/liberal arts/philosophy, or you work at Apple. Pretty much every album you mentioned is average or below average… except for Veckatimest… which is a great album… but apparently not good enough for your subtle yet progressive tastes. Go have sex with Albert Camus or something.

  49. um  |   Posted on Jun 8th, 2009 0

    Wow are people using the p4k scale?

    I love it that people take the time to spell out their favorite or least favorite songs on this album/favorite albums of 2009. I also love it that they think people reading this blog care. Well, I care, but only cause it’s funny.

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