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Remember what we said the other day about Billy currently being better at bitching than making worthwhile music? A Rolling Stone Q&A with the man proves our point yet again. Well, to be fair, before the bitching he does say that yes, the Pumpkins will, in fact, make albums. Just in a “different way.” Via RS:

I can tell that our plans right now are to do an album over two or three years and put it out in pieces and then maybe eventually bring it all back together. The album doesn’t have to be perfect. It doesn’t have to be ten songs. Some dumb white guy somewhere doesn’t have to like it. Some old fart, out-of-touch has to decide, oh, these ten songs aren’t as good as Sgt. Pepper’s. Well, you know what? I don’t think the Beatles would be making an album right now.

Dumb white guys. Speaking of which, we also get Corgan’s thoughts on Amy Winehouse, American Idol, and Radiohead, among other things…

Rolling Stone: Artists are finding their own ways to get paid outside of the major-label system, like the Eagles with their Wal-Mart deal, Madonna signing up with Live Nation.

Billy Corgan: I think it’s really difficult for the young artist, who doesn’t have at least some sense of a pathway. For example, if you were a kid today and you’re looking at the bands who are successful right now, you think, if you don’t sort of sell out and let somebody make you a star, go on American Idol, then you can’t be successful. Alternative culture is really critical towards introducing new ideas. We need those young bands to push old band like us, to push new boundaries. We need our butts kicked regularly. That’s where all the energy comes from, from the bottom. And when the message on Amy Winehouse is drama is better than music, and for Radiohead publicity is better than music — no disrespect to them. But I think it’s a bad message to young bands of how to make it happen. It’s almost like the evil stepchild of the rap bling-bling thing, like, the only way to make it work is I’ve got to come up with a gimmick.

Why didn’t RS call him on this? Like, instead of lobbing softballs, maybe they could’ve asked if he’s so true to his art and what the kids want … why did he let Best Buy and Target milk fans for special edition Zeitgeist’s? Instead, they follow up with “Selling out has lost its negative stereotype in a sense…” Good one, friendo.

Comments (77)
  1. Josh  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Suing Virgin isn’t about the publicity? Please

  2. roofbeam  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Corgan should have hung up The Pumpkins after Mellon Collie. As if he has any artistic integrity left after ten years of laughably bad releases… Please. Rehashing your glory days does not a good album make.

  3. Stephen B  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Dumb white guys? Isn’t that their audience? Um, isn’t that the audience for most of rock music? Isn’t Billy a dumb white guy?(I’m a dumb white guy, we can smell our own)

  4. whiteguymusicfan  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Billy Corgan is the biggest douchebag in music.

  5. So then, I guess an interview with Rolling Stone isnt done for publicity?

    Actually, probably not. People would actually have to read Rolling Stone for it to count as publicity.

  6. gravitasrainbow  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 +1

    Publicity is better than music? Hasn’t Corgan been sucking the publicity teat for years in the absence of a decent musical product? Wasn’t In Rainbows one of the best albums of 2007? Did anybody even listen to Zeitgeist twice?

    In summation: Radiohead > Smashing Pumpkins

    For ever and ever, Amen. That is all.

    • Patrick R  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

      I couldn’t even get through to the end of Zeitgeist the first time. My wife and I were going to Osheaga, so we picked up the album on the way. After 7 or 8 songs, I was like, “Fuck this, please put Explosions in the Sky or Stars back in.” In Rainbows = great.

    • iasojoifjgoidfj  |   Posted on May 21st, 2009 0

      yep. crogan is an idiot.

  7. stephen malkmus  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    NATURE KID!

  8. Last I checked [MDC] – it is impossible for The Beatles to *make* an album.

  9. God, this is painful to read. What a bitter, bitter man.

    • CL  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

      If you want happy interviews, don’t read about the music industry.

      On a side note, I kind of like Billy when he’s pissed off. It’s much better than when he’s all spiritual and new age-y.

  10. or when corgan released his horrible solo album he ran that huge ad in a chicago paper saying how he missed the pumpkins and he’s gonna bring ‘em back!

  11. clare  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    i don’t see any bitchin’, just opionions…
    what’s funny is that you put “RADIOHEAD” in the headlines, just because now radiohead is cool and you’re going to receive a lot of mouse-clicks from it.. and you still want think that it’s all about the music.. I’m a radiohead fan and I read the whole interview on Rolling Stone just because of them.. and the guy just said two words about radiohead implicating that they put out a good album, and his respect for them.. it was an interesting read anyway

  12. Andy  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Actually, Zeitgeist was an underrated album. I’ve listened to it lots! Look-bands have a shelf life and The Smashing Pumpkins had their day in the sun. They will always have the hard core fans that support them but the new generation of music goers are into something else. Soon, those bands will be tossed by the wayside as well. It’s a cycle and barring some incredible album the Pumpkins put out that happens to touch on the masses in some way, that’s the way it’s going to be-for most bands anyway.

  13. despite of his rage, he’s still just a rat in a cage.

  14. Corgan just said that bands need to come up with new gimmicks in order to sell records. He isn’t excluding Pumpkins from that, where does he say that his band are any different? He said “the only way to make it work is I’ve got to come up with a gimmick”.
    So if you (apparently top-class) interviewers were conducting this, you’d have asked; “So if you’re so true to your art and what the kids want, why did you let Best Buy and Target milk fans for special edition Zeitgeists?”
    To which he’d probably have replied – “Because the only way to make it work is I’ve got to come up with a gimmick. Are you Stereogum fucks deaf?!”

    • israel  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

      dude, he called gimmicks the evil step-child of “raps bling-bling.” and he said bands who participate in gimmicks are sending a bad message. i don’t think he’s lumping the pumpkins in here. he’s definitely being a little self-righteous.

    • israel  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

      dude, he called gimmicks the evil step-child of “raps bling-bling.” and he said bands who participate in gimmicks are sending a bad message. i don’t think he’s lumping the pumpkins in here. he’s definitely being a little self-righteous.

    • israel  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

      dude, he called gimmicks the evil step-child of “raps bling-bling.” and he said bands who participate in gimmicks are sending a bad message. i don’t think he’s lumping the pumpkins in here. he’s definitely being a little self-righteous.

  15. Brad  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Corgan is not knocking Radiohead for the publicity they acquired from their last release. He’s saying that, sadly, the public’s attention was more focused upon their marketing strategy than their album. Personally, I’ve read way more articles about In Rainbows that deal with their marketing efforts than the album’s artistic merits.

    You may hate the guy for being a bit self-indulgent, but the guy IS brilliant in both music and business.

  16. mark  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    i can assure you that amy winehouse has no idea who billy corgan is

  17. CL  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    You guys really read this wrong. I don’t know if you’re just looking to pounce on Corgan or what, but you totally got the meaning of the quote wrong. Just like a lot of people have said thus far, he wasn’t really slamming Radiohead as much as the media for only writing about the fact that the album was free more than its musical merits.

    He may be bitching about the industry, but he’s not wrong here.

  18. Aaron  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    I personally love the pumpkins. Even Zeitgeist. I think the people here love to hate – and Corgan is (and always has been) a lightning rod for people who love to bitch (not that he hasn’t (by his own admission) done and said some stupid shit). However – he is an amazing musician. Even if you only accept Gish, Siamese and Melon Collie – the pumpkins are BRILLIANT.
    However, I don’t know what Billy is thinking when it comes to marketing. He seems to be talking like he wants to be innovative, but then talks about Best Buy and Pepsi? MySpace is the new music industry? Huh? Maybe for My Chemical Romance and Puddle of Mudd! Radiohead (aside from being brilliant themselves) is one of the few bands that truly have a grasp of the new marketplace and how that truly frees up a successful, band (especially one without a contract).
    I think Billy has sipped the new market Kool Aid, but is refusing to swallow. He still doesn’t seem to get it.
    Swallow Billy!! Swallow!!!

    • Can I just accept Gish and like half of Siamese Dream, and go with “a pretty good band” instead of “brilliant”?

      I think I get this, though: “I don’t think the Beatles would be making an album right now.” I think he’s implying that instead of making yet-another traditional album, The Beatles would be doing something more avant-garde, as they were wont to do.

  19. I think he’s really just prepping fans for an appearance as a guest judge on an episode of American Idol where the contestants have to sing Smashing Pumpkin songs.

  20. Les  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Didn’t he release an album over the internet in 2000?

    hmmm..

    • Cl  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

      Yup. For free. And he didn’t release it on CD months later. It’s still not available for sale.

  21. bobby brooklyn  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    omg, like i’m so hip and vegan from brookyln lemme go salivate over vampire weekend and talk shit about billy corrrigan, he’s so evil blah blah blah. i

    • Chris Davis  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

      I’m a meat eating white dude from Tulsa, Oklahoma and I don’t like Vampire Weekend as much as some people…but I still think Billy Corgan is the biggest douche in music.

      Funny, you are criticizing others for being too hip and loving buzz bands and hating Billy Corgan because it is fashionable…but aren’t you really trying to elevate yourself to a level of hip above those people? Is anti-hip the new hip? Nah, you’re just a douche.

  22. eli  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Zeitgeist may not have been The Pumpkins best work, but I think Corgan should be applauded for standing up to the record companies for using his band’s name and/or music without his permission. No band should have their name/likeness or music used without their permission in any way, shape or form (anyone remember all the bitching Arcade Fire did when FOX used their music during the Super Bowl Pre-Game Show?). I get it that most of you (Stereogum writers and readers) aren’t into Smashing Pumpkins, but they still put on amazing live performances and are very fan-friendly. How many bands (and yes I know, I’m sure a few do) share recordings of live shows throughout their career for free? I’ve enjoyed having The Pumpkins back recording/releasing music and playing live shows again, and hope they continue for many, many years to come.

  23. DJ Mindy  |   Posted on Mar 27th, 2008 0

    Tsk, tsk. Corgan mentions them once, regurgitating well known blog vomit into a sterile mag like Rolling Stone and yet it’s headline worthy. Kudos for a cheap trick.

    Radiohead = buzz

  24. Mike  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    I’m not really a fan of SP, but this is really interesting, because when someone sent me this interview to read they copied and pasted it. In the version of the interview I got, it also included this quote about radiohead:

    RS?s Evan Serpick: It seems like the last decade or so, we haven?t seen many superstars emerge. Do you think it?s because of the focus on singles or the fickle market?

    Billy Corgan: Number one, I think there?s just too much. I mean, how can you ask an eighteen-year-old to sort through everything that they?re presented with? Realistically, just being hot and talented and having a good single isn?t enough anymore. You really need like the extra story, like Amy Winehouse had, or a Britney freak-out. Like, Radiohead putting out a great album is not enough of a story. Radiohead putting out a free album, and blah, blah, that?s the story. So it becomes more media-driven, event-driven, than music-driven.

    It’s weird that they took out this quote, but here his comments are pretty clear.

  25. Unfortunately, that quotation standing by itself lacks perfect clarity. More unfortunately, Rolling Stone has removed from its site an earlier portion of the interview ? such portion, as luck would have it, upon which Corgan was building in the Stereogum-quoted segment. Mercifully, however, that earlier portion was saved for posterity in a post on http://hipstersunited.com/blog/ :

    RS?s Evan Serpick: It seems like the last decade or so, we haven?t seen many superstars emerge. Do you think it?s because of the focus on singles or the fickle market?

    Billy Corgan: Number one, I think there?s just too much. I mean, how can you ask an eighteen-year-old to sort through everything that they?re presented with? Realistically, just being hot and talented and having a good single isn?t enough anymore. You really need like the extra story, like Amy Winehouse had, or a Britney freak-out. Like, Radiohead putting out a great album is not enough of a story. Radiohead putting out a free album, and blah, blah, that?s the story. So it becomes more media-driven, event-driven, than music-driven.

  26. Duke  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    It would be easy for me to make a comment bashing Billy Corgan, but he has valid points about what he’s saying. How often do you hear about Amy Winehouse and it’s actually something about her vocal talents or her music career, as opposed to her personal life. I’m always reading about how Radiohead released “In Rainbows” but never anything about the actual album itself.

    It would be easy to take cheap shots at Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins, except I can’t. I can’t because “Zeitgeist” was one hell of an album and I even saw them on their most recent tour and they put on a great, great show.

    As far as his lawsuit against Virgin goes, it sounds like he has a legit complaint. There’s a difference between releasing your album in different versions across various retail outlets, and having your music and image used without your permission for a promotion you had no prior knowledge of. C’mon.

  27. Shannon  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    hey stereogum, way to post something out of context to further your corgan-bashing agenda! top notch journalism there!

  28. The interview was in point of fact about music industry and media, and should be titled: ” Billy Corgan on MEDIA: Pubblicity is better then music”

    In Rainbows was just an example about media speaking about anything but music itself as a metter of fact.. and here we are again.. *clap clap*

    and how patetic bashing someone with incomplete quotes..
    http://hipstersunited.com/blog/archives/2008/03/rolling-stone-edits-corgan-interview-stereogum-bash-ensues.html

    BillyCorgan: Realistically, just being hot and talented and having a good single isn?t enough anymore. You really need like the extra story, like Amy Winehouse had, or a Britney freak-out.
    Like, Radiohead putting out a great album is not enough of a story.
    Radiohead putting out a free album, and blah, blah, that?s the story.
    So it becomes more media-driven, event-driven, than music-driven…

  29. Stereogum, you should just fucking delete this post. To take the guys words out of context just cause you want to portray him in a certain light is just unfair and unprofessional. Better yet, why not post an apology? Maybe for your lack of journalistic skills?

  30. Dean  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    jeez. yeah everyone knows billy’s a bitter old man, but what he said about publicity and hype driving the industry more than the music these days is bang on. if you’re a young band that’s full of musical talent but you can’t come up with a savvy PR angle or some kind of a story for the media to chew on, you’re doa. give the man a break.

  31. nathan  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    Wow, it sounds like someone at stereogum has a serious Billy Corgan axe to grind. It doesn’t sound to me like he was bashing radiohead or amy winehouse. sounds like he was just saying that the marketing and the hype has eclipsed the value of the actual product. can’t say i argue with that, friendo.

  32. chuck  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    You know, Stereogum’s anti-Corgan/Pumpkins rants is one of the reasons why I stopped reading this site on a regular basis. That and some the obscure, lame shit they promote that they think is so great. Honestly, does Stereogum really think Zeitgeist is such a bad record, that it should have been 10 songs shorter when half the mp3s I listen to here are lame? Give me a break. Zeitgeist was a GREAT album, no matter what form it was sold in.

    My only criticism of Corgan here is that he thinks Radiohead cared more about publicity than the music. He’s wrong about that because the whole reason they put In Rainbows out in the first place was because they were tired of the usual waiting game with labels and just wanted to get the music out there to the masses, albeit in a radical way (until they signed up with a label again, of course!).

  33. chuck  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    And I must add that the Pumpkins’ American Gothic EP is one of the best EPs of the year so far. But the bias against Corgan at Stereogum probably prevents them from telling their viewers that.

  34. Whoa! I aint mad, but whats with all the Billy bashin’ Stereogum? He’s no douche. He is more valid than most of the elite artists you tend to pump up. Lets Bash the eleventy-godzillionth knob- twiddling CSS-Fuckbutton-Crystal Castles-electro-80′s-ish novelty shit douche groups that seem to blippin’ all over your site. Nowadays music is the last thing people care about in this ADD culture. You need a shitty gimmick to attract hipsters. The dress up and write dumb lyrics that say nothing meaningful over a dancey drum beat with blips and a shocking band name. Why don’t you go play in a “image”-less local rock band for the next 10 years in a city overrun with house DJ’s and electro novelty acts that make more money playing everyone else’s music then writing there own. Lets see how many records you sell. This is the norm when it comes to selling music. I don’t believe hes hating on Radiohead….its just the reality of what lengths musicians have to go through to do this for a living. The approach is important…Gimmicks….you gotta love em’!

  35. Jordan Catalano  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

    But what we’re all sidestepping are the cold, hard facts. DESPITE any/all media coverage and however it was spun, “In Rainbows” was a stellar album. The same goes for “Back to Black” by Amy Winehouse. For all of the hullabaloo that we collectively can churn up here, none of it changes the greatness of those two albums. Period.

    As for our man Billy? He’s been an egotistical ass from Day one. At the same time, he produced a nice little collection of amazing and often transcendental music from the first SP single through “Mellon Collie.” He’s even had a few moments since then (believe it or not, there are a couple of really good tunes on “Machina”), but for the most part, the idea of the SP doing anything great pretty much ended with the turn of the century.

    Does he have valid points? Yeah, sure. Is he an insufferable douche bag? You betcha. Insanely bitter at the music world passing him by while he tried to hold on to that 1993 feeling forever? No doubt.

    In the end, fuck Billy Corgan. Do something AMAZING again (if you can) and then let’s talk. Same goes for Trent Reznor. For a guy that was the SHIT for at least a few albums, he too continues to release mediocre crapola and then wonder why the world could care less when he starts railing against Radiohead.

    If you want to be a pompous ass–and don’t get it twisted, as much as I admire Thom Yorke, he does veer perilously close to that territory on occasion–he can get away with it because his band still produces incredible and RELEVANT music. If Corgan and/or Reznor could even just be relevant in 2008, I’d give their commentary much more weight. In the meantime, it all just sounds like sour grapes from guys that miss doing unlimited amounts of cocaine and screwing brainless groupies on the road. Get with the times, dudes. Cuz all I’m hearing are lots of sour-ass grapes being turned into whine. And that last one was free, since I’ve got nothin’ for love for my peoples.

    done.

    • ohmygoditsryan  |   Posted on Mar 28th, 2008 0

      about halfway through there you became extremely childish. i felt like i was reading a 17 year-old’s “opinion”.

      as far as the article, i think ‘Gum should double check their cocky journalistic-blogosmearing shock-stories before they post stuff like this. you could wind up with people taking it the wrong way… like this guy above me here.

      • Jordan Catalano  |   Posted on Mar 31st, 2008 0

        Hey OMGRyan,

        You want childish? Bite me. Billy Corgan is an ass, and most Stereogum readers (like yourself) couldn’t buy a sense of humor if I loaned you a twenty. And while we’re at it, the hell with Radiohead too. They’re just a band, people. And maybe I am just kid, but at least I HAVE AN OPINION TO SHARE. Try it sometimes. You’ll be amazed at the dorks who’ll come out of the woodwork to take potshots at it. I think the return of the asshat starts here…

  36. Pete  |   Posted on Mar 29th, 2008 0

    WAKE UP People!! If anything Stereogum is being NICE.
    SP & BC Are total frauds they could give a crap about music. All BC talks about is money money money, that’s a gimmick too hm? Waste your fans time by babbling about money ” oh i have more money than you, etc”
    The guy is a nutcase & not even a talented one- any more.
    Many former fans are really also pissed off that they were not given the option as to whether or not to buy- the album because unknown to them- it literally financed the careers of a really crazy teen porn star & other nutty hard core porns stars who posed in the album. Why not just let everyone know about this first??
    Let the people know about your new market, guys…
    CAN YOU SAY GIMMICK? Not funny??
    PEOPLE have a right to KNOW what they are paying for- so obviously those who actually have a sex, love life- are struggling selling sp’s trashy delusional banal cd on amazon.

    He’s into teen & hard core porn stars. AND some really wacky pseudo hippy group called the SEEDS.

    The fan base has shifted to those who bought the album knowing full well who ?P Hilton? is. SO any fools changing sp’s or bc’s words to look ‘ normal’ are just the new batch of freak fans who don’t read the news & put p hilton posters on their wall & watch super hard core teen porn instead of GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE.

    & hate to say it they have too many ‘christian wanna be’ & not exceptionally- talented or bright in the least- women around them, other groups have some really gifted , smart outspoken females around. The chicks in the group have NOTHING to say, so obviously the GIMMICK is having some credit to burn.

    But it makes sense as there really is no talent to be seen around sp anymore, anyhow.

    Unless others are forced to work with them on tour, or those who choose to work with them for a little more pay back for their music careers. This will show you who treats music as only a business to make money or who is willing to work hard & use the tools & opportunities available to make sure- that they continue to evolve & focus on the art of it, groups like this have REAL integrity.
    There are way better, way smarter , much harder working bands who are doing this.
    The music is a nightmare, it is not even music. Their hypocritical money power drooling-ly hungry behavior is a nightmare & worse than even the disappointment of what used to be a mind blowing band- cum- hell broke loose- is that they have the nerve to create so much ‘publicity’ over such entirely unimportant idiocy-.

    Very hypocritical when they are marketing themselves to target, best buy, selling guitar skins with the sp logo, selling expensive crappy shadow boxes with drumsticks in them & outrageously expensive t- shirts & a pile of un- environmentally friendly c?d?s . Yes a pile.
    Scariest yet is that they have fans that say things like ? it is sp & they are such good guys & the music is good?.
    Officially the biggest saddest nightmare.
    ?Sp? is as commercial, corporate & apathetic as a Box of Tide Soap.

    Wake up people.
    Support a much more worthy & genuinely talented group, that does things for the world, like- Radio head, true genius & good for the environment, & inspiring too. & not surrounded by apathetic, boring jaded know it all females who don’t speak their minds.

  37. bobby brooklyn  |   Posted on Mar 29th, 2008 0

    Wow Pete, you are a complete WACKJOB. Big Brother is watchin’ youuuuuuuu!!! LOL

  38. Les  |   Posted on Mar 29th, 2008 0

    Note to all unknown or irrelevent musicians: If you want to get any attention, mention or bash Radiohead.

    Works everytime!

  39. bobby brooklyn  |   Posted on Mar 29th, 2008 0

    yeah, because billy corgan clearly bashed radiohead in his comment…? he didn’t bash them at all. he merely made a statement on the current state of music and stereogum took it out of context. and for those who say radiohead is better than the pumpkins. well, yeah, i guess it does take 5 dudes to be better than one billy corgan because gish, siamese dream, pisces iscariot, mellon collie and the infinite sadness, and adore are pretty hard to top.

    • slobby brooklyn  |   Posted on Apr 2nd, 2008 0

      You’re an idiot with no taste in music. All of Corgan’s obnoxious whiney records put together can’t compare to a single Radiohead song. Go put some more eyeliner on you retard.

  40. Robby  |   Posted on Mar 29th, 2008 0

    The first time I heard an interview with Corgan was on the radio back when Siamese Dream was just released and before the band was headlining or even alternative famous. The were supporting somebody that night in Coluumbus Ohio and Corgan was doing a promotional interview on the local radio station… and the whole interview was Corgan whining and bitching. He dissed a Chicago band that had a minor hit in 1990 (who were more famous than the Smashing Pumpkins at the time) and was generally bitter sounding that his band was so obscure. The interview was pretty funny with his arrogant whining and a co-worker said “this guy is a nobody and all he does is bitch and complain, who does he think he is?”… and all these years Corgan is still whining and bitching about other bands and the music business, it’s either funny or pathetic, Billy hasn’t really changed all these years. I guess he is honest in his own whiny way.

  41. That’s pretty bad, taking Corgan’s remarks out of context. I think an apology is in order…

    I mean, he’s a pompous douche, why do you need to change the facts to show that?

  42. ro  |   Posted on Mar 30th, 2008 0

    he’s not that bad. some ppl might just feel compelled to dislike him ‘cos stereogum says so. jeez. what he said is true anyway. he didnt really bash radiohead, not really. its true though that in most cases, indie or not, “hip” or not, publicity becomes a bigger deal than the music itself. the bubblegum pop of the 90′s and early 00′s is proof of that. and madonna. of any era.

  43. ryan  |   Posted on Mar 30th, 2008 0

    anyone who willingly put their dick inside courtney love should never be allowed to discuss music in public…

  44. Keram  |   Posted on Mar 30th, 2008 0

    … because Stereogum commenters would never bitch about anything.

  45. michael  |   Posted on Mar 31st, 2008 0

    “Who wants honey – when there’s money?”

    SP
    Siamese Dream
    Cherub Rock

    Billy Corgan is, indeed, the biggest douchebag in music today. STFU Zero Boy.

  46. ZOMG! A guy who weighs more than 90 lbs and who doesn’t have a pretentious beard said something that could possibly be interpreted as negative about Radiohead, if high on cocaine! How dare he!?

    Can we all just get over the Radiohead thing already? God, I was nearly stoned to death for saying that In Rainbows was “merely okay” in another post somewhere.
    If there’s one thing I hate about the indie community, it’s clearly the retarded elitism…

  47. mike  |   Posted on Mar 31st, 2008 0

    It’s been said dozens of time on this thread before, but I’ll say it too: posting such a misleading headline that takes his quote way out of context further dissolves Stereogum’s credibility. I visit this blog for music news and cool videos and don’t expect NYT-level journalism, but please do better.

  48. I hate angry posts, but this completely ignorant article has got me a bit stirred up.

    First off, did they not read the part in RS where Billy says “It’s a very difficult position because whether it’s blogs or people posting on Web sites, fans can get very frustrated about what they perceive about how you do your business, not being aware of how we continually have a gun pointed at our head.”

    On one hand, this could be a simple case of scapegoating, but honestly, there is way too much evidence to pass this off as a mere excuse. You don’t have to like all of Billy’s music, but for shit sake, please don’t smear with your ‘personal relationship’ with Billy Corgan, who I am sure you all know so fucking well.

  49. C-monster  |   Posted on Apr 2nd, 2008 0

    I was watching Oprah today and Dr. Oz made his lips look like an anus to prove that an anus looks like lips. After an uncomfortable minute of this behavior, I think I said something along the lines of “Holy fucking shit (and I don’t swear often) what the hell is going on?”

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