From NY Post:
Rolling Stone writer Jenny Eliscu has complained to Island/Def Jam chairman L.A. Reid that one of his label’s bands, CKY, is waging a harassment campaign against her ? including the wish that she “die soon” ? because she panned their new album. Eliscu’s one-star review of CKY’s An Answer Can Be Found stated, “Perhaps the most noteworthy thing about CKY is the ardor of their fans, the CKY Alliance,” who “bombarded this magazine with pissed-off e-mails after we gave the band’s previous album a two-star review. “Here we go again. The presence of [MTV prankster] Bam Margera’s brother Jess on drums may keep CKY aligned with the skate-punk scene, but An Answer Can Be Found is mind-numbing stoner metal, with ginormous power chords, repetitive vocals and overwrought lyrics.” After the review appeared last month, CKY, which is short for Camp Kill Yourself, singled out Eliscu for abuse/
Watch your back Sheffield — I hear Mraz is a biter.
In brighter news, also via the Post:
Yesterday’s announcement that Courtney Love had tested positive for drugs came as no surprise to anyone who attended the Comedy Central roast of Pamela Anderson Sunday night at the Sony Studios in L.A. Love was “out of it” when she arrived. On the red carpet, she slammed her head into a photographer’s lens while posing for a close-up, a source said. During the roast, Love, seated on the dais, repeatedly flashed her crotch at the crowd, pulled up her shirt to reveal a lacy black bra and shouted “Drugs on the house!” She babbled incoherently into the microphone for ten minutes ? prompting more than a few people to tell the rocker to be quiet. After Love shouted, “I’m sober over a year now,” host Jimmy Kimmel said, “If this is sober, there is a real problem.” One audience member snickered, “She makes Andy Dick look like a choirboy.” The roast will be televised Sunday at 10.
If Comedy Central wasn’t cutting her shenanigans, I’d liveblog this shit. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Courtney actually got on stage and performed The Aristocrats?
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Add Courtney to the fat drug addict list along with Rob Thomas.
They’re cutting her “bit?” Dammit. I heard Sarah Silverman pulled her aside and told her to “think of Frances.” Why doesn’t she have a reality show?
Wait a minute: people still read Rolling Stone reviews?
That outfit is a wholly owned subsidiary of Boomer nostalgia. Didn’t they think that the the 90′s merited only like two of the top 100 album’s of rock and roll?
Bwah-ha-ha…Topher, you make me smile
Courtney is my role model
Jesus F’in Christ. At least Courtney is temporarily clean. When was the last time one of you critics without a point went through detox or rehab to kick? Nevermind, don’t answer that. I’m convinced that the majority of those who come here are between the ages of 8-19.
Well I don’t know about you, but I’m 84. I’ve picked up and kicked more drugs than you or Snoop-Dog even could name. Why don’t you try getting your handds on opium during the Depression? Jesus, with Warren Harding in office, I was lucky to get a kilo of grade-A Colombian a year.
Does C LOve have any normal responsible friends or have they all said “Fuck you” at this point? Really SAD. She needs to get out of Hollywood.
Shit, Topher, I was shooting up with Harding everyday back then. Don’t come down on my boy.
That sucks that she has to deal with a bunch of angry 15 year olds on skateboards (CKY’s core fanbase). What, do they doorbell ditch her or leave flaming bags of dog poo on Rolling Stones doorstep?
I think only one or two 90s albums qualify as one of the 100 greatest of all times, and I’m in my late 20s, but I don’t read Rolling Stone, either. Since you asked.
Footage of Courtney Love would work terrifically as a deterrent to premarital sex. It’s too bad she was too young during the Reagan era.
c love pictures @ the roast: http://trent.blogspot.com/2005/08/off-wagon.html
cky? dkny? not even my skateboarding nephew (18) (yes, he’s even been featured in actual skate magz) or his friends or enemies listen to that crap anymore, and didn’t hardly even when it came out. well, maybe for a month (that’s all their attention span can/could handle) i think the one-star was justified. no, i haven’t heard it; who needs to? you hear one song from three years ago, you’ve heard every one of ‘em.
oh, poor baby girl: c-love just needs a wee flask of moonshine to get her through these awkward tv appearances; forget the hard drugs! and to think i had a glimmer of hope in my heart when you posted that pic of her and frances a while back. *sigh*
more courtney photos here: http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/weblog/courtney_love_even_beyond_tom_cruise/
great photo of fucked up courtney here: http://molly.blogs.com/i_can_change_this_later_r/2005/08/what_would_give.html
They just put a lot of video up here, including some of Courtney claiming to be clean and sober:
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/roast_anderson/videos/roast/index.jhtml
Jed, you think that only two albums of the 90′s qualify as being among the greatest 100 ever? Obviously Hootie’s “Cracked Rear View” and Save Ferris’ “It Means Everything” are in there, but are you going ot tell me that you’d exclude Silverchair? Candlebox? The Verve Pipe? I mean, where the hell are you going to put the soundtrack to “The Bodyguard”?
Each one of those are as good as Sgt. Peppers multiplied times Exile on Main St.
Squared.
she got fat
Any truth to the rumour about what Jeffrey Ross said at the Roast? I heard he looked at her, and said, in the mic, “Christ, Courtney, what happened to you? Kurt looks better than you right now!”
So so def…
I don’t know how many records from the 90s I’d put on such a list, but I know Rolling Stone leans too-heavily-to-be-statistically-correct on the music of the 60s and 70s.
and as to: “When was the last time one of you critics without a point went through detox or rehab to kick?”
Well no. I clearly don’t know your life, but in my first 27 years’ worth of experience, hardcore heroin addiction is not unavoidable. To bastardize Nancy Regan, “Just say, ‘what else you got on you?’”
goodness, did comedy central slip her a mickey to get all of this publicity???
And people asked me why…
I love this. A vapid pop star roasts herself at a roast for a vapid pop star. Hollywood never disappoints.
two albums from the 90s?
ok, even excluding the obvious ones (nirvana “nevermind”, radiohead “ok computer’) there’s plenty to choose from pavement, sonic youth, yo la tengo, etc.
I saw on one of those gossip sites that Courtney was asking someone from the papparazzi to fuck her that night. I think there were no takers. Her behavior is really bad for someone who is her age. I can’t believe she’s not in jail at this point. If she was not a celeb she would be.
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Rock Journalism Is Dangerous, Courtney Love Is High
From NY Post:
Rolling Stone writer Jenny Eliscu has complained to Island/Def Jam chairman L.A. Reid that one of his label’s bands, CKY, is waging a harassment campaign against her ? including the wish that she “die soon” ? because she panned their new album. Eliscu’s one-star review of CKY’s An Answer Can Be Found stated, “Perhaps the most noteworthy thing about CKY is the ardor of their fans, the CKY Alliance,” who “bombarded this magazine with pissed-off e-mails after we gave the band’s previous album a two-star review. “Here we go again. The presence of [MTV prankster] Bam Margera’s brother Jess on drums may keep CKY aligned with the skate-punk scene, but An Answer Can Be Found is mind-numbing stoner metal, with ginormous power chords, repetitive vocals and overwrought lyrics.” After the review appeared last month, CKY, which is short for Camp Kill Yourself, singled out Eliscu for abuse/
Watch your back Sheffield — I hear Mraz is a biter.
In brighter news, also via the Post:
Yesterday’s announcement that Courtney Love had tested positive for drugs came as no surprise to anyone who attended the Comedy Central roast of Pamela Anderson Sunday night at the Sony Studios in L.A. Love was “out of it” when she arrived. On the red carpet, she slammed her head into a photographer’s lens while posing for a close-up, a source said. During the roast, Love, seated on the dais, repeatedly flashed her crotch at the crowd, pulled up her shirt to reveal a lacy black bra and shouted “Drugs on the house!” She babbled incoherently into the microphone for ten minutes ? prompting more than a few people to tell the rocker to be quiet. After Love shouted, “I’m sober over a year now,” host Jimmy Kimmel said, “If this is sober, there is a real problem.” One audience member snickered, “She makes Andy Dick look like a choirboy.” The roast will be televised Sunday at 10.
If Comedy Central wasn’t cutting her shenanigans, I’d liveblog this shit. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Courtney actually got on stage and performed The Aristocrats?
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1st – weeeeeeeeee!
Add Courtney to the fat drug addict list along with Rob Thomas.
Posted by: Rina at August 12, 2005 11:23 AM
They’re cutting her “bit?” Dammit. I heard Sarah Silverman pulled her aside and told her to “think of Frances.” Why doesn’t she have a reality show?
Posted by: tanya at August 12, 2005 11:24 AM
Wait a minute: people still read Rolling Stone reviews?
That outfit is a wholly owned subsidiary of Boomer nostalgia. Didn’t they think that the the 90′s merited only like two of the top 100 album’s of rock and roll?
Posted by: Topher at August 12, 2005 11:31 AM
Bwah-ha-ha…Topher, you make me smile
Posted by: mandy* at August 12, 2005 11:35 AM
Courtney is my role model
Posted by: Chu Chu at August 12, 2005 11:35 AM
Jesus F’in Christ. At least Courtney is temporarily clean. When was the last time one of you critics without a point went through detox or rehab to kick? Nevermind, don’t answer that. I’m convinced that the majority of those who come here are between the ages of 8-19.
Posted by: jdogg at August 12, 2005 11:51 AM
Well I don’t know about you, but I’m 84. I’ve picked up and kicked more drugs than you or Snoop-Dog even could name. Why don’t you try getting your handds on opium during the Depression? Jesus, with Warren Harding in office, I was lucky to get a kilo of grade-A Colombian a year.
Posted by: Topher at August 12, 2005 12:03 PM
Does C LOve have any normal responsible friends or have they all said “Fuck you” at this point? Really SAD. She needs to get out of Hollywood.
Posted by: xolondon at August 12, 2005 12:19 PM
Shit, Topher, I was shooting up with Harding everyday back then. Don’t come down on my boy.
Posted by: Irish at August 12, 2005 12:20 PM
That sucks that she has to deal with a bunch of angry 15 year olds on skateboards (CKY’s core fanbase). What, do they doorbell ditch her or leave flaming bags of dog poo on Rolling Stones doorstep?
Posted by: robb at August 12, 2005 12:33 PM
I think only one or two 90s albums qualify as one of the 100 greatest of all times, and I’m in my late 20s, but I don’t read Rolling Stone, either. Since you asked.
Footage of Courtney Love would work terrifically as a deterrent to premarital sex. It’s too bad she was too young during the Reagan era.
Posted by: jed2 at August 12, 2005 12:58 PM
c love pictures @ the roast: http://trent.blogspot.com/2005/08/off-wagon.html
Posted by: heather at August 12, 2005 01:00 PM
cky? dkny? not even my skateboarding nephew (18) (yes, he’s even been featured in actual skate magz) or his friends or enemies listen to that crap anymore, and didn’t hardly even when it came out. well, maybe for a month (that’s all their attention span can/could handle) i think the one-star was justified. no, i haven’t heard it; who needs to? you hear one song from three years ago, you’ve heard every one of ‘em.
oh, poor baby girl: c-love just needs a wee flask of moonshine to get her through these awkward tv appearances; forget the hard drugs! and to think i had a glimmer of hope in my heart when you posted that pic of her and frances a while back. *sigh*
Posted by: melina at August 12, 2005 01:01 PM
more courtney photos here: http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/weblog/courtney_love_even_beyond_tom_cruise/
Posted by: heather at August 12, 2005 01:14 PM
great photo of fucked up courtney here: http://molly.blogs.com/i_can_change_this_later_r/2005/08/what_would_give.html
Posted by: script at August 12, 2005 01:21 PM
They just put a lot of video up here, including some of Courtney claiming to be clean and sober:
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/roast_anderson/videos/roast/index.jhtml
Posted by: lindsay at August 12, 2005 01:27 PM
Jed, you think that only two albums of the 90′s qualify as being among the greatest 100 ever? Obviously Hootie’s “Cracked Rear View” and Save Ferris’ “It Means Everything” are in there, but are you going ot tell me that you’d exclude Silverchair? Candlebox? The Verve Pipe? I mean, where the hell are you going to put the soundtrack to “The Bodyguard”?
Each one of those are as good as Sgt. Peppers multiplied times Exile on Main St.
Squared.
Posted by: Topher at August 12, 2005 01:30 PM
she got fat
Posted by: EasyP at August 12, 2005 01:43 PM
Any truth to the rumour about what Jeffrey Ross said at the Roast? I heard he looked at her, and said, in the mic, “Christ, Courtney, what happened to you? Kurt looks better than you right now!”
So so def…
Posted by: derek at August 12, 2005 02:03 PM
I don’t know how many records from the 90s I’d put on such a list, but I know Rolling Stone leans too-heavily-to-be-statistically-correct on the music of the 60s and 70s.
>and as to: “When was the last time one of you >>critics without a point went through detox or rehab to kick?”
Well no. I clearly don’t know your life, but in my first 27 years’ worth of experience, hardcore heroin addiction is not unavoidable.
One day at a time, sis. That’s all. It’s just C love’s character to be obnoxious and such. People give her shit about this and that, and it’s a struggle to get clean IT”S A REAL FUCKING BITCH
so just let go of her being ‘FAT’. This site is full of “he’s ugly” “shes’s to skinny” “she’s too fat” “she has no neck” and blah fuckety blah blah blah
holy fuck get back to the music already
Jdogg, I agree with you on the point of there being too many comments about who’s too fat and too skinny and so forth here. It makes people look very bitchy 7th grade girl. However, this is a pop culture site, and not just a music site, so I think it’s par for the course.
Re: the 90s. There are plenty of great albums from the 90s, yes. Neutral Milk Hotel, the last two Pixies records, a couple of great Sonic Youth albums, a bunch of great Pavement albums….but overall, pop music, PARTICULARILY with regards to production, got pretty bland starting in the 90s. At least the 80s had a lot of catchy vocal melodies and incredibly ostentatious production techniques. The 90s was sort of what the early 70s was to the 60s…a sad distillation.
This conversation I think brings up a very important point about the nature and fabric of this site and more importantly, the comment section. It’s a question that I think Scott himself must answer because it impacts the long term viability of the site, his site. And that question is this: Which is better, the Verve or the Verve Pipe?
I have Jenny’s back!
Topher, the answer is Superdrag.
How could you possibly compare Superdrag to the Verve or the Verve Pipe? I mean, maybe Better Than Ezra or Deep Blue Something could lick Verve Pipe’s boots, but not Superdrag.
Now if you said Dog’s Eye View, then maybe we could have a civilized conversation. But Superdrag’s swill gave mid to late 90′s adult-alternative bands a bad name.
I didn’t say anything about her being fat. I never would; I used to be fat (about 70 lbs more than today). I’m just saying: “I’d like to see how you handle detox and rehab,” is a pretty nutty challenge. It just cracks me up.
As to the comments, I appreciate Scott’s non-exclusive approach. This is the internerd, not the cool kids club. I love to laugh at some 12 yo girl who thinks Lindsay Lohan or Britney Spears or whoever is reading her comments. “OMG! I love U so much Britney, and don’t listen to these mean people!” I also love the who’s been listening to Death Cab longer fights and the indignation some express when others don’t build a friggin parade float to celebrate their elevated music taste.
You know, no one congratulated me on listening to Joy Division in high school. I just kept the roots of my China Bob black and got on with it.
If you don’t like the open house, might I suggest Blogcritics or Stylus (Stylus makes you register to comment). I like those sites, they focus on music and get a good crowd. It gets boring, though.
No way homeslice. Superdrag’s “Sucked-Out” had that wicked bassline in the chorus. And it also reversed the whole 90s thing of soft verse, loud chorus that the Pixies started. Talk about subverting the dominant paradigm!!
I think the more pressing question that needs to be answered here is:
Who would win in a bare knuckle fight to the death, Courtney Love or Tanya Harding?
Perhaps. But if we could rasta-fy Superdrag by 10% maybe we’d get somewhere.
Jdogg, you’ve been found out and will be persued for vengeance with extreme prejudice.
i stick my legs up at you c love-style, then!
I dispute the proposition that the Pixies invented the soft verse-loud chorus idea.
Exhibit A: Night Ranger – Sister Christian
Now we all know this song was deeply influential to everyone from Ian MacKaye to Devandra Banhart, but why can’t we also agree that it, rather than the Pixies, is the root of 90′s indie-rock?
you people are fucking idiots. hootie and the blowfish in the top 100 albums of all time. you gotta be joking.
the top 10 should read like this
pet sounds
the stone roses
london calling
definitely maybe
forever changes
the kinks are the village green preservation society
the la’s
let it bleed
revolver
ok computer
that right there is a top 10
FUCK YEAH, TOPHER!! That’s my favorite song!
You’re motoring!
What’s your price for flight?
In finding mister right!
You’ll be alright tonight!
I’m a Night Ranger enthusiast.
I think they were joking, Bill.
… Except when it comes to Night Ranger. No jokes there, just pure unadulterated AWESOME.
“definitely maybe”
Definitely not.
For the record: Of course I was kidding about Cracked Rear View being in the top 100 albums. Only an idiot would think that Cracked Rear View is better than their much overlooked follow-up “Fairweather Johnson”, which if you don’t think is the best album ever, I will fight you, and that’s no lie.
(Again, just kidding. It’s very hard to stop. By the way, how did you read the words “Dog’s Eye View” and not pick up on the joke?)
The La’s rule.
I can’t remeber who, but someone was defending Courtney last time there was a post about her on this site. They’re an idiot, and so is love. courtney love is a bad musician and an even worse parent. the bitch probably doesnt even pay her taxes.
As for the guy arguing against the pixies inventing the dynamic/song structure ties, ovbiously they werent the first to do it. but they were the first to make it a central part of their sound. (hell , even the doors’ song ‘break on through’ plays with that idea. that doesnt mean the doors were more influential to alt rock that frank black and co.)
Courtney Michelle Cobain committed suicide 2 evenings ago, after reportedly failing a drug test and being threatened with the loss of her only child with her late husband (grunge rocker Kurt Cobain), Frances Bean Cobain, who she lost custody of for 15 months and just regained full custody of within the past few weeks.
Though reports are preliminary, her body was reportedly discovered at a home in LA. Cause of death is not yet known, but suicide has been the conclusion made, purportedly due to a note left at the scene.
Frances, who will turn 13 years old on August 18th, was reportedly taken in by a family member, who also notified her of her mothers death. The child is reportedly “devestated” and “inconsoleable.” She was seen in recent months cuddeling next to her 40 year old mother at an event for the US tv show ‘American Idol,’ where they gleefully flashed rock signs and rooted on performer Bo Bice. (who lost to preformer Carrie Underwood)
Frances’ father, Kurt Cobain, famously commited suicide at the home he shared with his infant daughter and wife in Seattle, WA in April of 1994.
Love has batteled drug addiction in recent years, including that to cocaine and heroin. She was sentenced to drug rehab last fall and had reportedly been doing well. Proclaiming this past week at an even to be “1 year clean and sober and all they can talk about is my weight gain.”
Further details will be forthcoming
FALSE COURTNEY LOVE SUICIDE RUMORS FILL INTERNET: LAPD
Officer Kathi Simpson of the Media Relations office says detectives report that the suicide in the 8500 block of Mulholland Drive in the Mount Olympus area does not involve a celebrity. Off duty police officer reportedly killed self early in morning in secluded area off famous drive.
Rolling Stone: way off base on the CKY record. Seriously, has anyone except me actually read the review? It’s absolutely pathetic and should be grounds for a sentence of painful death in a fair world. It contains the phrase “ex-squeeze me” for chrissakes! Fucking shit. It’s honestly not a bad record at all, and compared to most metal coming out today it’s downright good. Sure it’s cheesy but, I mean, fuck, it’s metal. Fuck Rolling Stone.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah…yada yada yada…hey jdogg find a hydrant quick
Wha? Courtney Love and drugs in the same sentence? NO FUCKING WAY?!
speaking of drugs and indie-yuppies, someone should buy this for courtney love’s daughter…
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8211916984
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/13/arts/television/13heff.html?8hpib
“Ms. Anderson beamed with pride.
She was also gracious, though more subdued, when Mr. DiPaolo slammed her work on television.
“As an actor,” he said, “you have the emotional range of Terri Schiavo.”
He added, “If I was a baby seal and I had a choice between being clubbed to death or watching an episode of ‘Stacked,’ I’d be like, ‘Somebody call J. Lo and let her know her mittens are ready.’ “
Jeffrey Ross is a rat bastard…his comments about kurt cobain were uncalled for and unfunny…
What kind of person thinks its funny to make fun of a dead guy…he makes me a jewish person look bad…and anyways…his career should be dead…for fucks sake he played a dead guy on csi
HE IS A FUCK
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Bill, what’s with you British people and the Stone Roses? Will someone explain this to be? They’re good and all, but they’re not the Second Coming. And before you say something about Americans having no taste, I have 4 words for you: Robbie Williams and Crazy Frog.
billy corgan and courtney love should SO get married.
The Stone Roses – If the Beatles had taken a decade off and come back simply a little podgier ’bout the midriff with nothing but plonky afterthoughts from the Rubber Soul sessions to prop up their legend, they’d have been hunted to extinction. Instead, people are still finding sweet things to say about Ian Brown solo projects (in stoned, adenoidal tones).
i love courtney love no matter what!!
hi yall
ciurtney used 2 b so nice
now she looks like a hobo
no offense 2 all u who like her