Speaking Of The Killers...
Brandon's got beef with fellow NME cover boys (and HFStival act) the Bravery. Via MTV News:
"Look at a band like the Bravery. They're signed because we're a band," Flowers said. "I've heard rumors about [members of] that band being in a different kind of band, and how do you defend that? If you say, 'My heart really belongs to what I'm doing now,' but you used to be in a ska band. I can see the Strokes play or Franz Ferdinand play and it's real, and I haven't gotten that from the Bravery. I think people will see through them."Stereogum will keep you posted if
Posted at 1:11 PM in Where's The Beef?
Tags: The Bravery | The Killers

That's pretty funny coming from a guy riding the tail end of a trend himself. His band looks like they were put together by the label. The same as FF, The Strokes and The Bravery.
"Hey, what are the kids into these days. Let's find a local bar band and have them add a keyboard player and verse them in 80's classics."
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Pot Kettle Black. The only reason the Killers were signed is becasue bands like New Order, Gang of Four, and Duran Duran had a resurgence in the past few years, and Fat White Dude the record exec wanted a way to capitalize on "the kids," since they would probably be too stupid to turn off their radios.
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Don't get me wrong, I actually liked the Killers' album but that boy shouldn't think so higly of himself. Catchy as it may be at times, it is not spectacular. Sorry, mormon boy but you look really strange with eyeliner... not dangerous or ironic.
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And the Killers were signed because Hot Hot Heat was a band. Q.E.D.
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Um... Yyyyyeeeeah. Leaving aside the issue of whose work is "genuine" or the reasons behind their decision to play a certain kind of music... Who wants to hear what Brandon F**kin' Flowers has to say about it? Keep it real all you want, Brandon. Your album is still terrible...even when compared to crap like the Bravery.
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A more appropriate question...
"hey Brandon, what's it like being a makeup wearing douche? Are you and Mark McGrath pals?"
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poor, misguided brandon. just as people were starting to accept the fact that his lil new wave band weren't the worst thing since creed and now he shoves his foot so deep in his mouth it's not even funny. methinks he's just jealous, since it's obvious that the bravery are on the verge of becoming the good charlotte of new wave (i.e. selling boatloads of records to impressionable teens that will copy their updated 'hot topic' wardrobe while the killers wonder why the suits just aren't working anymore).
effing classic.
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I see no reason for him to slag ska music in his little tiff. As a long time fan of ska, I take offense at that. Besides, it was great British ska bands like the Specials or the Selecter that helped lay the groundwork for the original new wave. There's more talent in Hepcat's little (broken up) finger than in his whole make-up kit.
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this is what is called marketing.
it helps that they are on the same label.
now everybody will run out and buy the new bravery album that came out today just to see what all the fuss is about.
then next week the bravery will say that they have no beef with the killers and that they like them as a band.
the killers will say they were mis-quoted.
then the killers, the bravery and kylie minogue will cover "bizzare love triangle" at the mtv video awards and there will be a "surprise" guest appearance by bernard sumner.
blah. the future is so boring. so predictable.
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The Bravery vs Morrissey...
I think I'd rather pick up the live Earl's Court gig today over that band who's got that vocalist who looks like The Mozzer.
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1) the Killers are ass.
2) the Bravery are fake.
3) the Killers music is ass.
4) the Bravery's songs sound fucking rad really loud in my car.
Bravery wins. I don't give a fuck what a band looks like or what they used to do. It's the music that matters, and it doesn't have to be smart, or revolutionary, just good. It just has to be good.
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I picked up both :)
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the Bravery is Ashlee to the Killers' Jessica, they're the same band through and through. I'm surprised not everyone's "seen through" the Killers' overdone crap; they couldn't have been 7 years old in 1981 and there's no reason to regurgitate all this stuff from that time period. The Killers are officially my most cringeworthy band since Maroon 5. BTW "Pieces of Me" is still an awesome song.
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Please see Attaboy Skip, defunct Las Vegas ska band featuring the Killers' drummer Ronnie Vannucci. Boom.
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Stealing from your betters is what every artist does. And if you want to make money playing your music, you will have to make "marketing" decisions no matter how much you disguise them.
That being said, Mr. Flowers is a dork. And why all this wasted breath? The only memory of the Killers in five years will be a (nostagically enjoyable) episode of Pop-Up Video.
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who hasn't been in a crappy band at some point? ya can't hold that against people. lots of people were in ska bands in like 1994.
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egad...
i've always gone back & forth about the killers, but after reading this nonsense coming from flowers (if that is his real name), i may finally fall into the negative camp. what a tool. i used to think he didn't take himself so seriously, but c'mon. sheesh.
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that's not very mormon of him to say. shame on him!
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as soon as i heard this guy singing about "indie rock and roll is in my soul", i knew it would be appropriate to completely ignore everything else he would go on to say in the future.
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Good lord people...Flowers' statement is exactly true. Look at the Killer's fanbase...it's certainly a demographic dominated by preteens and young teenagers. Said preteens and young teenagers have never heard music from new order or the like. It's all new to them. Look at the bravery's fanbase, a few more pretentious music snobs than the killers' but all in all the same keyboard-loving teenagers. I enjoy a few bravery tunes, but they are just trying to nose into what is probably the biggest music market out there right now. They certainly dont deserve the title 'next biggest thing'. Wait till everyone's burnt 'honest mistake' onto a cd and plays it until it gets tired...
Besides, Brandon is fucking hot with his lipstick-and-eyeliner wearing nose-in-the-air attitude
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I'm no big fan of The Killers, but I have to agree with him. I've heard The Bravery a million times before, and done better in the process. It just sounds so generic.
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i may agree w/brandon's assessment of the bravery, but he's a total ass for saying so like he did, claiming that they were only signed because of the killers' "success". it's been said before, but POT KETTLE BLACK.
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I will say that I find the Killers album to be good. I don't think it's re-inventing the wheel, and if Interpol didn't have any success, the Killers would still be playing in their Las Vegas basements. It's quite pathetic that Brandon needs to resort to name-calling. Anytime a band does that, it only makes themselves look stupid.
Brandon...shut your fucking mouth and play your music, and don't hold your breath for that Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.
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hey pageblank, remind me who the smiths and joy division were stealing from?
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http://www.attaboyskip.com/SHOWS/IMAG000.GIF
ronnie.. 2nd from left.
and tim- the killers never played a basement show in vegas... they claim to be from vegas but between 2001 and 2003 they played about 10 shows there.
go to www.attaboyskip.com for some song samples.
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oh and they also never played a basement show in las vegas because there are very very few basements in las vegas.. and those only belong to the richest people..
you see.. the soil and rock is too hard to dig into, so make a basement is a very intensive process in las vegas
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ummmmm have you heard Third Uncle by Brian Eno? Joy Division stole that.
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Is Brandon that big-headed? Literally he is, though... Or is it just a cheesy marketing strategy of a record company, if it means anything.
By the way, the NME article said, "That would be the wussiest fight imaginable." It could've been nice for your header too, Stereogum. :)
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I like The Killers record more, but I'm still gonna say The Bravery win soley because the singer has hair like Glenn Danzig. And Glenn Danzig is kickass!
Anyways, it's all just silly-fun pop music. Why bitch and moan? They're not out to change the world, they're out to make us dance. You don't like dancing: don't listen. I mean, they sound like fucking Duran Duran. And seriously, Duran Duran have never been the epitomy of artistic credibility. I mean, the same hipster beatdowns The Killers are getting are probably reminding Simon Lebon of the bloody noses inflicted upon him by the Musical Elite in 1982. (True, Brandon Flowers should probably listen to my advice as well. I mean, I like his band just fine, but Radiohead they're not.)
I do hope more Killers/Franz rip-offs come along if they're all gonna sound as good as The Bravery.
This is probably the first time since I smelt teen spirit that rock radio has been about the fun. I seriously think that's why rap and boy-pop became the radio listener's fetish. Grunge made fun uncool, leading to a teenage bubblegum riot which we're only now recovering from. Embrace the new New Wave, says me.
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"have you heard Third Uncle by Brian Eno? Joy Division stole that"
Wha? You aren't by chance referring to Bauhaus' cover of Third Uncle, are you? (Two VERY different bands . . .). And if you're not, may I repeat - Wha?
And just to stay on topic here - is it THAT hard to come up with an original idea? Put down the mirrors, boys, and work on your music, not your poses.
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Skabba the hut ruled. Actually they were all pricks, except for Sam. Three cheers to him for making music that will sell well.
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aren't they both on island records?
hmm
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At least Flowers has moved on from The Stills, who he spent most of the last year bashing. Mr. Brightside is pretty damn negative.
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the bravery is a lame band that formed to get chicks. honestly, they used to hit on my friends and me with the pick up line of "wanna make out? you know we all will anyways." and when that didn't work, "hey, i'm in a band."
ugh. i hate that people listen to their over-produced pseudo-indie rock now.
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Alright, first off, The Killers rock and The Bravery can only pray to be good enough to lick their, The Killers', designer boots. Secondly, I noted somewhere written in this mass of words, some accurate with a lot that I am in obvious disagreement with, that lyrics to the song Indie Rock'n'Roll surfaced. In the band's defence, when they sing "indie rock and roll is in my soul", they are not serious. I believe the word that I may best describe this with is SARCASM. Ever heard of it? I guess for the misguided few, it's not all your fault. I assume that you obviously couldn't see what it was that you were typing, for, it's hard to look at the computer screen what with your head firmly in your sphincter.
Maybe you can read this page of the NME to further understand the tongue-in-cheek-esque Indie Rock'n'Roll:
http://www4.islanddefjam.com/media/killers/press/nmepage3.jpg
P.S. Oasis and The Killers rule the world (Radiohead is not too shabby neither.)
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First off I happen to be a big fan of The Killers.I mean i'am still a fan of the Bravery ,but if they are so much better why would they even respond to what brandon said.Plus The Bravery was also comanding to name calling .WERE THEY NOT?And about the lip gloss and make-up ,I'am sure the Bravery has put on some gloss a make-up in one of thier videos.AM I RIGHT?Plus the bravery wouldn't of responded if they didn't wan't o start a FUED!And I think brandon looks hot with or with out make-up.Thank you very much!
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Why care, its just music, Everyone in the world is a poser. EVERYONE! no one is born punk,rapper, rocker, waver, or whatever. Show me one person who claims their identity is all natural, and I'll show you a bullshit artist in denial. Its all a put on. So who cares if you put on ska, raver , or rocker. Its all fake!
Music is not an identity! its just music. If you think you are really a punk, or a goth, or whatever. You are putting on an identity, or posing. Hell yes I am a poser. We all are posers. Anyone who thinks they aren't is full of shit. including the killers ( I like the killers and the bravery , by the way ).
So don't take yourself too seriously. Besides 99% of the bands out there end up in the "where are they now file" within 15 years. So be humble and enjoy your fleeting moment.
And besides you look really stupid questioning the authenticity of your peers music , when you sing in a fake ass British accent, and you're from Vegas. Not that there is anything wrong with that, if it sounds good to you than do it. But just remember EVERYTHING is a put on.
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I agree with Mary, music is not a natural identity. Also, I think some people here are being a bit too touchy. I don't think Brandon was trying to put down ska music, just using it as an example.
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Hi, i just wanted to say.. that um Brandon Flowers is the finest thing since... since... idk when, but yes he wears makeup and stuff... but look at him... he is like... soooo FINE, so how can you ppl be talking about him like this... he is so fine. But i think he's gay.... which is sad.. because hes so fine
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I think, there's some right in what he is saying.Can you imagin how frustrating it must be to be copied and even manage to be popular. I think Mr Flowers is a fine person, and he wouldn't say that without a good reason. And ppl, for god's sake, enjoy the music, not the all the crap around it ;)
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First off, Brandon Flowers isn't gay, he has a fiancee'.. dur.. you judge someone before you even know them, that's pathetic. Anywho, The Killers are awesome, I don't care what anyone says/thinks.
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HEY U KNOW WHAT BITCH!!?!? brandon flowers is a hottie, and you are just HIGH!!!! you're a jelous faggot, who can't get over the fact that you could never be HALF AS GOOD AS BRANDON FLOWERS!! so shut the fuck up you bitch and a half!!
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GO BLAH! u know what u guys r jackass's that wish that they were half the man that Brandon Flowers is. He is the hotest man alive. And u know what hs "creepy eyeliner" is really hot. And him being a mormon isnt bad what so ever. I think you guys r rude and immature and i hope that one day u will all go to hell. (exept all the people that love the killers) I mean i am a HUGE fan of the killers and i thinks its rude to put them down like this. I mean, they are a band just trying to make it big (which they already have.) I'd like to see you guys try to form a band as good as theirs.
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Ok i liked the bravery ,before they said all that S*$! about the killers ...but then they had to go do that interview,which by far was the most crapiest thing to do,and they didn't just keep to talking about what brandon said, they had to go say stuff about the whole band.So if the bravery reads this i'll say wonce and i will say it again.THE BRAVERY ,WE'RE OVER!
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Brandon Flowers' fiancee is a store manager at Urban Outfitters (thanks, Spin).
How authentic do we want to get.
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Wow. I guess when the Hot Topic closes for the night, The Teenies have to come home and play with their parents' internet access.
See you in hell, U GUYS SUCK. Hilarious.
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The Killers rule and brandon is so fit. I love their music and everything about them. and its up to brandon what he says and hes only speaking his mind would you all rather he lied like other bands?
p.s not tlkin bout the killers fans coz u r just gr8!!
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what is wrong with you people? in an interview, the bravery said they were influenced by punk music....duh! punk, ska....alot of punk bands experiment with at least a couple of ska songs....i don't see what the big deal is anyway! the bravery is obviously more original than the killers.....they seem a little too fruity to be 'killers'
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by the way..... sam, i love the devilock!
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Okay i don't want to start a whole conflict or people to get mad at me but i am a Killers fan and I like the Bravery's song Honest Mistake i think they both sound pretty good . Well that's just my opinion
ps. I think when it all comes down to it it's just a matter of opinion.
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Heres all u need to know
Bravery=crap and the Killers are my life!!!!!!!!!!!! I listen to them 24/7 and think they're the best thing to happen to music-EVER!!!
And Brandon can be full of himself-not saying he is- b/c when you're talented gorgeous and famous you just become that way. And yeah I am a teen but i kmow and like older music, but my lover Brandon is right, Bravey blows. Kisses Brandon!!!!!!!!!!!xxoxoxoxoxoxox
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Heres all u need to know
Bravery=crap and the Killers are my life!!!!!!!!!!!! I listen to them 24/7 and think they're the best thing to happen to music-EVER!!!
And Brandon can be full of himself-not saying he is- b/c when you're talented gorgeous and famous you just become that way. And yeah I am a teen but i kmow and like older music, but my lover Brandon is right, Bravery blows. Kisses Brandon!!!!!!!!!!!xxoxoxoxoxoxox
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just been reading thru everyone's comments... got a few of my own...
1) the killers don't suck
2) let brandon have whatever opinion he frakkin wants
3) he looks hot in eyeliner
4)creed does not suck, but
5) "Pieces of Me" does
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Chiming in here late, but this is funny. Just what I thought months ago, Brandon's showing his true colors. I knew he was an ass when he verbally attacked someone I was working with one night and threw a diva-like tantrum. After that incident, I knew it would be a matter of time before he started talking smack about other bands.
If you're going to open your mouth, make sure you have something intelligent to say. Because The Killers look like a greedy record exec's wet dream of a contrived band wearing faux-hipster clothes and eyeliner and singing catalogued 80's synthpop songs.
And Brandon, do yourself a favor and shut your mouth for good. Because you're one record away from packing your bags and heading back to Vegas for and opening for Wayne Newton for the rest of your miserable little life.
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Brandon is fit no matter wot any one says. isnt he allowed to get stressed? i mean they get hardly any sleep, are always performing and recording and writing new songs and to top it off they have to stay in a van all cramped together! i fink they are doin so good and their music is great. do people really expect him to be a good little boy all the time. come on people!
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awwwww travis who posted a comment on the 29th of march is such a legend his comment is near the top of the page READ IT! you will all agree that it is Hilarious aw bernard sumner/ kylie minogue! how did you think of it? brandon flowers is a prick!has anyone heard the killers song ruby? BOLLOX!the killers are sold out after one album enough said.
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Ok first of all i would like to say 'FUCK YOU ALL WHO ARE WRITING NASTY SHIT ABOUT THE KILLERS' your obviously jelous of the fact they have fame and success and you don't.You probaly in one of those shitty little bands that are trying to make it big but are no where near it, thats why your jelous because The killers got success quickly and you didn't and will never do. The killers are the one of the best bands out at the moment and your all taking this Bravery vs Killers shit seriously and you know how fucking interviewers do they blow it all out of proportian and make the people they are interviewing sound up them selfs and shit.Brandon is a fucking decent guy whos shy and sensitive i respect him for being open about his opinions instead of being fake and saying things like 'oh yeah they are such a great band i love them blah blah blah' it's no good saying something like that if he doesn't like them is it.All the killer's guys are fucking hot and your probaly all a bunch of ugly tossers who are jelous that they are getting some in that department and you aint.The bravery are so fucking over-rated its unbelieveable i used to like 'honest mistake' but now it fucking gets on my nerves and all their songs sound the same and have no meaning.The killers put passion into their lyrics and their songs all have different sounds to them, and so what if Brandon puts on a fake accent it still sounds fucking good and unique and some of these Ska/punk bands that around sounds all the same with their voices.(Greenday rule by the way)Hot fuss is a fucking great album! So all you killer haters out there go fuck yourselfs and get a job and get a life! Their starting point was Las Vagas and their finishing point is still out of reach, as they will be around for a very long time to come.
END OF!!!
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if you guys hate the killers so much why are you spending your time dissing on them? go do something else with your time because writing stupid shit isnt benifiting anyone. i love the killers and brandon flowers is frickin hot!
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i was undecided of whom I prefer, but after seeing both live and purchasing both albums I am decided the killers kick so much more ass… yes Brandon is very very attractive but who cares of what he says… he is telling the truth… If he was a quiet sensitive character he would have the total piss taken out of him for that… Rather than wasting dumb probably not precious time dissing the killers, go back to your shitty worthless dingy non sign-worthy band and stick to what you don’t do best… and I like Brandon in eyeliner :p
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oh brandon flowers, has your head gotten bigger than your fanbase? i <3<3 the killers, i think their fun and catchy, but obviously no kind of revolutionary rock, and yes the same goes for the bravery, they are catchy and fun, nothing too serious, BUT one large difference that tells me to lean toward bravery a smidge more:
ive seen both in concert and the bravery were 20x better than the killers concert wise, you could tell they wanted to be on stage, it was an overall good show with good energy. the killers show lacked energy, any kind of movement and brandon looked like he did not want to be up there. the curly haired killer was a nice guy, but im not sure about the rest, and the bravery key boardist was pretty nice as well, so yeah musically could be a catchyfest toss up but concert wise, no contest for me.
plus if ur gonna start "pointing fingers at who stole what" the line would never end until you got to elvis who in turn "stole" music from the people around him ...ect.. you could still probably go on from their, soo in conclusion someone needs to kick that pink suit wearing cutie, brandon flowers in the arse.
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people..the mans just speaking his mind. if no one said anything about others it would just be a butt sucking world. and dissing other bands is part of rock n' roll behaviour. brandon was criticizing the bravery's music(nothing personal!). i have nothing against the bravery but the responce they gave was just immature and irrelevant. they were making fun of mark(who didnt have anytihng to do with brandons comments). it was just so childish and obvious that they didnt have anything smart to say! and just decided to pick on things like lip gloss the pink jacket! leave the pink jacket alone..lol!
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Brandon Flowers is freakin gorgeous, who cares what negative things he says.. I think it is funny that all you people are so pissed about a stupid comment.... and BTW his eye liner is HOT!!!
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One more thing, who is Bravery anyways..never heard of em.. Brandon, uh call me I love you YOU ARE SO HOT!
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um first of all who is bravery? who cares it was just one dumb comment made. he has an opinion too.
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Brandon is so cool, that he can pull off eyeliner... he only made on little commment lets not go over board, about it people.!
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Brandon at least has charisma, whether he is fake or not or whatever immature/arrogant comments he makes- and thats hard to come by nowadays. It is impossible not to keep your eyes glued to him. he is incredibly sexy, and his sexiness (i think eyeliner is a huge turn-on on men who have enough balls to pull it off) is probably why anyone gives a shit about his music. And thats nothing to be ashamed of...plenty of women artists are sucessful only cause they are sexy too. more power to him.
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i love the killers. they have different music comoared to whats out there now. its not rap and its not that emo rock stuff... its unique... brandon flowers has an awesome voice. they are by far my favourite band.
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umm...i have no idea what his comments were cause i was too busy drooling over his picture. i love the killers no matter what. who's the bravery anyway?
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Well I really don't believe I belong on this page, but I'm going to put myself out there anyways. I have fallen for Brandon Flowers harder than any other celebrity, along with many of the band's loyal fans. This guy has so much talent in him, it's unbelievable. He even has the guts to wear lip gloss and eye liner (and look gorgeous with it. Give him a break he grew up with 4 sisters!) and take all the shat thrown out by all of you people, and still keep going to give us the privelage of hearing his music. He shouldn't have a hate page like this. He is far too talented and charming to deserve it.
thank you
<3 jess
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Each to their own. I agree with Brandon Flowers about the Bravery, and I really can't stand any of their songs except An Honest Mistake. But I also agree with the people who are saying how big-headed Brandon Flowers is being, because he is. But yeah, he is also soo damn fine.. Yeah, if you hate the Killers then fine, that's your opinion. I listen to the music the bands play rather than the little feuds they may have with other bands.. They're just added fun (:
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The Killers are great: The Bravery suck
Brandon is fit: the lead singer of The Bravery looks like adam ant after a bad night out
NO CONTEST
END OF :P
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why don't you all quit friggin critisizing the killers. Brandon Flowers is awsome, they're music kicks butt, and who gives a damn what he [Brandon] said about Bravery? everyone gets a little bigheaded everyonce in a while, right? this is so retarded, do u really have to hate someone because they might have misspoke, or that they made it famous? did you ever think they were famous because they were *hint hint, i might be onto something* GOOD???
anyways, i think u should stop picking apart everything they do, just because they r celebrities. talk about getting a life.
p.s. brandon flowers looks dam hot in a suit (or anything else for that matter)
but thats just my opinion.
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OMG! how can THE god have a h8 site. u sad sad sads people. get a life! just because he may of hada lapse in his godlyness n sed sumin quite bitchy n bigheaded so wat! The bravery ra loada bolox neway so hu relly gives a crap. Brandon Flowers is so talentid n can pull of nefin from his gorgeous eyeliner 2 his pink leather jacket. u people hu have rote a ton about how gay he is- y dnt u go outside n c sum daylight n live alittle. Mayb then may u come bk n critisise good music! peace out! : )
p.s. who's lame enough to start up a h8 site anyway, isnt that a tad negative and harsh, why not think of summit u actually like adn devote a site to that instead of slaggin off things you dont understand! lame wods!
p.s.s- well dude 2 dude hu sed killers rock- simple but so ssos so effective.
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As an impartial person and best m8 of Aimee i'd like to say DAMN STRAIGHT GIRL! Brandon Flowers is hot (but he's Aimee's)and talented so lay off u negative geeks! Find summit u like wankoids. Btw i actually like The Bravery but still, he's entitled to his opinion so get lives =D
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The Killers suck! It looks like Brandon Flowers put on lip-gloss!The Bravery ROX!Sam Endicott of The Bravery is very, very, very, HOTT! Brandon Flowers look like a PREPPY BLONDE!
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Well that's my opinion!
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Brandon Flowers is VERY HOT!!!!!!!!!And the guys who are talking mess about them are just jealous that girls like Brandon and not them. Their also made that they're not getting any.
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I mean to say mad. And BRANDON FLOWERS IS VERY VERY HOT. HE LOOKS GOOD IN EVERYTHING. BRANDON IS IS A MAJOR HOTTIE!!!!!!!
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if brandon can pull off hot pink ties and jackets, and flippin eyeliner, then he can pull off lip gloss, whoever said that. it totally would just make him hotter. whoever thinks brandon isnt hot needs to get a life.
this sight makes me ill, but i only post to defend brandon, who doesnt even know what backstabbing and crap talking is going on. i would give ANYTHING to have a day with the killers, but i wouldnt give even a single strand of hair to be the bravery. The killers have such amazing tunes to their songs, they r addicting, and their songs actually have a story to them (whatever the particular song/story is).
I don't see how you can live with yourself, having a whole sight devoted to putting people down. I personally think i might just start up a fan sight for the killers, just to combat this one.
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