And gas station sunglasses. Oh my GOD how could you get literally every other middle age stereotype into one post and forget gas station sunglasses? You’ll need to try harder next time.
Agree w/ #1. Fell in love with Amber the first time I heard that ridiculous vocal lick and high note at the end. List definitely lacks Impregnable Question, which, on my list, would make up for missing the top spot by instead occupying spots #’s 2-4. And then: You want to hear Dave Longstreth finally, after *years* of trying, FINALLY perfect his white-guy Beyonce impression?? While You Are Here.
I *really* enjoyed your post.
That graph shows the royalty payout to an artist’s publisher currently (light green), and what the payout would be for a similarly popular song if Spotify were to hit its own company goal of 40m paid subscribers (dark green).
“Of course, there’s something romantic about that tortured genius archetype, and I think there’s something inherent to American culture that draws us to a visionary. It’s only later, when the products diminish but the ego doesn’t, when we turn on them, and that’s happened with Corgan over the years, when his arrogance seemed wholly out of touch with how uneven his legacy has become. You know what, though? I don’t even care.”
^This, exactly this. The Pumpkins were my first “oh my god favorite band!”, gushing teenage fanboy implications and all, and this is the most perfect retrospective statement about them I’ve ever read.
So I also cut my teeth on 90′s alt rock, and I appreciate a lot of what you said. But I’d echo the point others have made here and say that music is reactionary. You say a lot of synthetic music is soulless, poorly produced, and lacks talent from experience–I agree; but I’d also point to Daft Punk’s album this year as a (phenomenal) reaction against that trend. And it’s worth pointing out that the current wave of intentionally poorly produced electronic music coming from inexperienced musicians is itself a reaction, in the same way that the wave of intentionally poorly produced grunge music from inexperienced 90s musicians was a reaction. The way I look at it: I was just a bit too young to really get what was happening the last time we saw a major sea change in music (I was 8 when Nirvana hit). Now, I think we’ve got another major sea change occurring–I don’t want to be too old for this one!
“For a band so many try to write off as harmless, talking about Coldplay comes with a surprising amount of baggage.”
Here’s to hitting the nail right on the head!
Hahaha I think that you could make the “baby boomer” point about nearly any American cultural trend. There has never been such a generation of self important and stubborn aging old shits! Their music, their movies, their politics, their counterculture, their career path…most anyone over the age of 55 believes that these things collectively are and **will forever be** the yardstick and exemplar vis a vis culture. Even as these models degrade, break down, or are carbon-copied so many times as to become just plain boring (John Mayer I’m looking at you!), the baby boomers steadfastly go on believing that they nailed it 40 or 50 years ago, and everybody else should just give up and kiss the ring.
What’s *neat* about the “naught” era is that this is the first time in like thirty or forty years that the art, culture, etc being churned out is no longer a response to the suck-hole that is baby boomer culture. I think about “I want my MTV” and “Gen X” (and then Gen Y), and “Dammit Bobby…the boy ain’t right”…these are all young ppl in the 80′s and 90′s pushing back against baby boomer culture, which reaction is still, in its own way, an homage to baby boomer culture. But in the 00′s…well you’ve only got to see the Cialis commercial w/ the grey hair baby boomer literally and metaphorically “getting his truck stuck in the mud” to know their way of doing things carries no more weight, is superfluous, unimportant, impotent, irrelevant.
In short, I agree w/ you 100% :D
Greetings from Ashbury Park is, for me, is a perfect record front to back. Can’t believe that it’s not top three!
I gave you an upvote :D:D Mostly because in ’00 I listened to Agaetis Byrjun every night while I fell asleep. It’s one of the most important albums to me.
I keep wondering if I’m listening to the same album as everybody else. LOVE it since listen one.
Love this album from start to finish.
I agree, there will NEVER be another “broadly accessible yet artistically credible” band like Nirvana, but not because music in general has gotten worse, rather because the ideas of broad popularity and artistic credibility are mutually exclusive in today’s record industry. Major labels have seen their bottom line get chewed to pieces by piracy, so they can no longer afford to take chances on creative, artistically credible bands, and must stick to generic sure-bets. However, widespread popularity on the scale of Nirvana or Radiohead still depends on major label support. Because there is dissonance between creativity and major label support, there are very few credible artists with widespread popularity, and instead the bands that saturate our culture all sound like a copy of a copy. Still, make no mistake about it, this is a golden age of music. Bands that would never have had a shot 15 years ago can rise to some level of popularity, if not Nirvana level popularity, based not on whether they get signed to a major label, but based solely on whether or not their music *sounds good*. That is an amazing innovation in modern music, and it is something to celebrate, though, as this debate points out, it has its own consequences.
By looking for modern “equivalents” you’re already looking for the wrong thing.