Holy buckets. Mr. D-to-the-illa is 40? And has a freaking kid?
The use of the term “sex object” as opposed to, say, sex icon, is pretty unnerving. I don’t see how Sky Ferreira’s video can elicit long discussions on racism yet something like this, straight sexual assault, doesn’t bother as many people. Sure she is extremely open about her sex life and obviously dresses provocatively, but I don’t blame her. How many female pop stars really get anywhere with using their looks? The cost of making art as a woman these days basically requires it. I know this double standard is apparent so there isn’t much need for me to expound on its harm, but I just wish that people would take something like this more seriously. Really peeves me that we can talk about the nuances of “incidental racism” and cultural appropriation, but we just gloss over a comment like hers.
Some buddies and I would have genre specific dance nights for our college radio station and one of the frats would host a dance party that matched the theme and Britpop/Strokes-pop (a genre term I invented just now that seems pretty self-explanatory) was probably the most happening night. Not many people were really familiar with any of the deep cuts from the Britpop era, but everyone danced their asses off anyways. Something about Britpop must just appeal to the dancer hiding in every white guy and gal.
Anyways, I always wanted to experience something like it on a larger scale but I never knew these nights existed and I’m pretty bummed that I likely won’t get a chance to experience it.
I feel like all this white-hate is just leftover from Macklemore beating out Yeezus.
Side note: can we get a anniversary article for something by Slum Village?
When I was about 13 or 14 I had no interest in hip hop at all. It seemed like a lesser type of music to rock and punk and blues.
Then I heard The World Is Yours.
I could probably count on one hand the songs that have changed my entire view of music and The World Is Yours belongs in that group. My favorite hip hop song and album.
Also, props to Chris for once again bringing a sincere view of music that people want to immediately discount without a discussion. Possibly my favorite music writer on the world wide web (sorry Tom, I could only take so many Mac Demarco disses).
Readers who are dismissing this article are missing out on some good stuff. Not the music, because that is frankly subpar, but certainly a look into a huge shift in music trends and culture.
I grew up long after the 90′s alt-rock revolution so my feelings toward bands like Live, Everclear, Candlebox, and Pearl Jam, that have legacies ranging from bad to sort of revered in the indie community, are strictly based on the music. There are a few tracks from the “Nirvana-to-Creed” movement that I enjoy, but for the most part it all seems like bands that couldn’t write anything worthwhile, so they used the cool and edgy post-grunge sound to be relevant. I’ve come back to these bands at different points in my life to give them a try, but it’s never clicked and I don’t think it’s ever going to.
That said, I have a few friends that were teenagers at the time Throwing Copper and the bunch came out. Some of them still occasionally give the albums a play, some do their best to avoid admitting they owned Sixteen Stone. The one thing they all agree on is that it seemed like the rock side of indie/alternative music was going in the direction of bands like Live and in the post-Nirvana landscape it was possible for those kind of bands to even be cool and hip. They all admit to having been swept up in a movement, as if being born later on and having a more objective view of the music would give them a totally different level of appreciation or disdain.
I find this fascinating because I constantly wonder what new bands I love that are going age poorly because they only seemed great within the current trend or movement, and mid-90′s music seems like a great example of it in the indie/alt community.
I’m pretty sure some of the synth tinged indie-pop bands that so desperately want it to be the 80′s again are going to be some of the biggest offenders that are big right now, but I still love them and I’m sure I will 20 years from now. Just like those who still believe in Throwing Copper’s greatness.
To echo eighteenk’s sentiment, this article is far from praise of 5 Seconds of Summer or pop music.
I think Chris already made the argument to why a weekly pop based article is useful in a previous post so I won’t bother with that, but this article in specific is actually pretty useful in furthering readers’ knowledge of independent music.
The progression of music pop culture that Chris laid out was very insightful and interesting and actually made me want to do some digging of my own. He gave the Buzzcocks as example of a distant ancestor of Blink 182 with only 2 example steps between, but I wanted to try to connect all of the dots. I figured I would start with The Rolling Stones and The Kinks leading into Iggy and the Stooges and MC5 and then to Blondie (side note: I love Blondie) and to bands we consider more standard punk like Black Flag and Dead Kennedys and so on. On my way I discovered some bands that I really like that I never would have found otherwise.
I also considered what some of these older bands would sound like if they were starting fresh today, so I searched for some strict disciples of these bands’ music, and it’s led me to some great independent bands. I actually even ordered a album from a small band, Unwelcome Guest, and plan on checking out their label when I get the time.
All this because of an article about pop music. These types of pieces aren’t undoing the progress of independent music; they simply give an intelligent view of other areas of music through the lens of an independent music fan, and more often than not they verify our belief that pop music kinda sucks and Blondie is the shit.
You can feel how disappointed Tom is that the track doesn’t actually involve Kanye.