Agreed. None of the two singles released so far do it for me either.
I’m not feeling this. In their previous albums, particularly on 936, there was a strong atmosphere. The psychedelic element was high, and it moved the listener to another state of mind. This sample just don’t it at all for me. It’s not because it’s not “dub”, but it’s simply because it’s missing a strong, defined atmosphere. Too many vocals too, they strive for a more pop album, but this takes away what made them unique.
He’s a great guy, and a great artist. He deserved this!
I don’t like that Grimes song. It’s a depart from the aesthetics we had known her for. This one is too, I don’t know, less interesting with that “party” sound.
The following is my honest opinion on this track. So, nothing new here as music itself is concerned. The whole construct of the piece is like plain pop, in fact, it’s close to country-pop music, but with electronic instruments on the background instead. The music itself plays a very secondary role, it’s barely audible, Jesus’ voice completely overpowers and dominates the piece. So basically this is a very pop piece (the kind they used to have in the early ’90s, but with barely audible synths or progression), that tries to convince us that it’s rad/indie/experimental/etc. It’s not in my view. It’s something I’ve heard before a thousand times. The music itself only starts to become interesting, standing on its own two feet, in the last 4 seconds of the track.
Exactly! Whenever I say to my friends that I don’t care about lyrics, and I like the human voice to blend with the music (or at least not stand-out as it does in most forms of music) they look at me funny. It’s just that such kind of “human voice comes first” of music doesn’t touch me at all. The above Caribou song is obviously heaps better than most music out there, and it does it right in terms of voice-mixing. But it doesn’t touch the great heights of grand, cinematic-like music.
Love the bands you mentioned btw. :)
> you may find me in your boat in a few month’s time as well.
> What did you think of “Rival Dealer” and “Truant/Rough Sleeper” ?
IMHO, not as good as Kindred. They both had a very generic sound, like normal house/R&B/techno kind of thing, but in a more experimental tone. Unfortunately, this didn’t work for me in terms of soundscape, it didn’t create a strong otherwordly atmosphere and landscape in my mind like Kindred did. Kindred was like a horror movie in your ears. It had substance, it made you feel like a movie plot would, not just some notes.
I have tried to analyze over the years why I like that certain type of music, and I found that everything I like could be thought of as “cinematic”. From classical music (that is the most common music for movies too), to Burial’s Kindred, to OPointNever, to Forest Swords, to Salem’s Kings Night, to Caribou’s Jamelia, they all feel like the soundtrack of a movie that doesn’t exist. You make up the movie’s landscapes and feelings in your mind, while listening to the music. To me, this is an indispensable quality. If a piece of music doesn’t create this in my mind, I don’t consider it good music somehow. To me music is a tool that elevates me in another dimension of sorts. So it requires a very specific type of music to achieve this.
Now of course, I might be wrong about this, or I might be just too single minded, or too narrow minded. But I like what I like. ;-)
I was referring to Kindred. However I don’t agree that (if according to your theory the album gets more interesting down the line) he should have released this (essentially an intro) song as first PR song. If it’s not indicative of the album, then it should not have been released IMHO.
My theory is that most of the album is like that intro song though. Just normal electronic music we’ve heard before. He might have 1-2 Jamelia-like songs in there or not (we will know in a month’s time), but that doesn’t make the whole album a masterpiece in that case. It just makes it an “ok” electronic album with 2 very good songs in it. This is not enough for me, because I truly expected more out of Caribou. I felt disappointed when I heard this earlier today. That’s all.