I think you have the Young Widows correctly tagged as post-hardcore. So to get into the ambivalence you referred to at the beginning of the article, I agree that there is reason to question whether such material is appropriate for an ostensibly metal column. It’s good, don’t get me wrong, but unless you’re going to start considering ALL hardcore for inclusion then you risk being accused of hipster tokenism… basically a similar gripe that is often leveled against sites like Pitchfork for dedicating nearly all of their metal coverage to the type of stuff that Profound Lore, 20 Buck Spin and Southern Lord put out. Personally, I like it all, and have dozens of music blogs clogging up my RSS feed accordingly, so it’s not all that imperative to me that this column maintain any kind of fundamentalist metal aesthetic. But if the idea of the Black Market is to carve out a space within the Stereogum brand to appeal to headbangers that might not otherwise read Stereogum… it’s something to consider.
(disregard above comment. I misread the argument as well as not having pored over the list in detail, so I thought I was defending the inclusion of bands that were actually omitted for reasons that I, yes, glossed the fuck over. Durr)
Converge are hardcore and hardcore has had an increasing cross-pollination with metal over the last decade, so I don’t see anything remotely controversial about including them on a metal year end list unless you just want to be super purist about it. Similarly, Torche and Baroness have released albums that were decidedly “metal” in the recent past, so I don’t see the value in cutting them out of the equation the minute they start to experiment with non-metal styles.
Swans is the only one of those bands that I’ve been seeing on a lot of metal year end lists, and yes it’s a great album but Swans have traditionally had limited (if any) crossover with the metal realm, so I can see why someone would omit “The Seer” from their metal list in spite of it being a better album than most of the ones that did in fact make the cut (I definitely omitted it from mine, though I’ve also seen it included on a number of others).
I love black metal as much as the next guy, but I don’t get the uproar if these year end lists aren’t filled to some arbitrary quota with black metal. In the last year or two I think the most adventurous stuff has been coming out of the doom/sludge subgenre, yet no one ever fusses if a top XX list doesn’t feature enough sludge albums, do they?
True, but also because it’s hard to compare different styles of music that attempt to do totally different things, so how do you make the assessment, for instance, that Cloud Nothings is more relevant than Roc Marciano? I’d actually go so far as to say that it’s the general lists that are the most irrelevant, not the genre breakdowns.
The simplest answer to that question would be that none of the writers have volunteered to compile such a list, but Michael Nelson expressed an interest in doing a metal top 40 and there you go. I’m sure if someone stepped up and said they’d like to do a hip hop or mixtape list – and maybe they have – Stereogum would be unlikely to reject the idea.
Finally got it to load all 19 slides but then midway through browsing it kicked me back to the first slide and the final 14 disappeared once again. I’ll try back later, I can only assume there’s some internal tinkering going on behind the scenes
Am I the only one who is only getting the first five slides to load? Using the latest version of Chrome
That’s the best Bruce Hornsby & the Range impression I’ve heard in years.
Good article, but you are aware that LOTS of major cities have rivers running through the middle of them, right? Hell, in the pre-railroad days that was more or less essential for a settlement to prosper.