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Make Believe is really bad. Raditude, Hurley and Death are way fucking better.
It’s not just you. Mellow Gold is a classic with great fucking songs and an overall feel that is brilliantly executed.
Seriously though Luke, I get where you’re coming from. Beyoncè has made trite pop songs. I don’t even bother with the shit between B’Day and this album. 4 was okay I suppose.
But on this album you got songs like Blow and Haunted. Stuff that you hardly find elsewhere in pop music. Second half of Haunted. Oh man.
I’m gonna have to refer to the argument that these are critically acclaimed pop songwriters and have earned respect as producers and songwriters through a substantial body of work.
In my opinion the fact that you dislike pop music (in its purest form) might not give you much of a reference point for discussing the quality of her music. My theory is that you are unable to write positively about her because you haven’t spent enough time with her music. This was certainly the case for me before I became a fan. However I have no idea how you think “hipster worship” has anything to do with this. Perhaps this indicated that you are strongly affected by other peoples opinions regarding certain music.
Good for you that you can admit XO was well-done:). I assure you that the rest of the album follows in the same vein. In the end I am just a sucker for engaging pop-music.
I would also like to say that B’Day is an exremely strong R&B album. So much that I started respecting her as an artist.
Either way, this shit isn’t for anyone. I just dislike it when people claim something is trite and simply corporate, devoid of emotion.
Well said. I agree with this.
Man I fucking love The-Dream. Love/Hate has some sick production on it.
Some guy’s words against her’s. I’d say your evidence is pretty thin. But common sense tells me she doesn’t write many songs either.
Surely you’re being ironic? “Hipster fascination”. What kind of a bogus term is that to use in a proper discusson? Reading your earlier post I have to assume you’re not.
No shit she is a pop star. She’s got half the industry right here backing her album. And some of the biggest songwriting talent out there right now working with her (or -for- her depending on your point of view). But she is also an artist. What you might define as passionless “trite pop” music, others such as myself might find “emotive” and inspired.
Now, I’m not saying she ain’t commercialized as fuck. But I could give less of a shit as long as the music is fun and engaging.
Frank Sinatra didn’t write a single line of In The Wee Small Hours of The Morning. That doesn’t make him any less talented.
The fact is that Beyonce writes on many of the songs herself. Beyoncè is an intimate and personal album.
There are just 12 actually. The other 3 are bonus tracks. *The more you know*
Dont forget Pitchfork vs. Childish Gambino (Gambino in “All The Shine”: “Pitchfork only like rappers who are crazy or hood”, Pitchfork: 1.6/10 review) and Allmusic vs. Bon Iver (a mean 2.5/5 review) and