lana probs loves stoker
Good evaluation by the way
I’m not trying to be a massive pedant, but I think Karin mentioned that she liked Fugazi while doing interviews to promote Fever Ray.
I think Nothing’s over by Infinite should be somewhere on the list.
the “send Dustin a recollection of a recent dream” link just leads to this same page
speaking of steel drums, weren’t Deerhunter, Gang Gang Dance, The Knife, TVOTR, Grizzly Bear et al. supposed to be composing steel drum music for charity earlier this year? I wonder if that music will ever be released.
mouse on mars!
Illy Girl sounds a bit like Pan Sonic, another great album that was pretty much ignored.
I wasn’t expecting the Knife to be on this at all and I was even surprised that they were an option for voting but I’m so glad they are on it. Tomorrow In A Year is usually very underrated and is easily the best album so far this year.
All of these people who hate CocoRosie make their judgement based on the attention they pay to carving their image and the perceived pretentiousness of it as some kind of cheap gimmick to attract people to their music. The music itself doesn’t draw the same kind of reactions and people decide to hate the music based on their image which would actually be totally understandable if the music wan’t so damn brilliant. Honestly, isolated from all of the gimmicks, if you listen to their music without knowing how they dress or what their videos or live shows are like it is a great listening experience and has the same exuberant creativity and atmosphere. That’s not to say that their image doesn’t add to the statement of their music, if you give the music a chance first their actual image will seem a lot lot more natural and genuine and won’t seem forced at all however pretentious can appear alone. But still they are musicians aren’t they?
Really I thought it seemed a bit pretentious and unnatural the way Animal Collective used to wear masks as if they kind of felt they should be doing something eccentric. Their music was good enough that it didn’t affect my enjoyment of them and it is only a small thing but I’m glad they don’t do it anymore and like I said I never had a huge problem with it so I didn’t think about most of the time.
This comparison definitely crossed my mind before, Even though I do prefer The Knife and Fever Ray to CocoRosie I still like CR and the parallels are anything but clear cut. Firstly, even if this is a bit too obvious, I don’t think that Cocorosie are consciously trying to imitate the Knife or Bjork.
More importantly, the idea of creating a new world and embodying characters broadly speaking is present with both say Silent and Cocorosie’s music but I have to stress that the intention is very different and the expression and ideas are in a very very different vein. With Silent Shout you have a “world” which is independent from the Knife’s other music and characters which are presented as creations of The Knife. Each song is distinct from each other song although most have common themes and every song melds to create a beautiful, alien, detached ethereal atmosphere. The masks that are worn by the Knife when promoting the album as well as their live shows are also presented as elements unique to the album.
In contrast to this, all of Cocorosie’s music inhabits the same world but this world does change and develop such as the blue-grey shift of Grey Oceans and the image and artistic expression goes beyond the music as CocoRosie actually seem to inhabit their world when they speak in interviews (They talk about fairies and play with colouring books etc.), unlike the Knife who are totally normal. Really the “World” of Cocorosie in my opinion is just kind of the magical naive lens of childhood and all of the over the top creativity and playfulness that comes with that, and it is also reflected in their music where it might sometimes be hip hop but imaginatively interpreted with kids toys and kazoos and interesting samples. So unlike Silent Shout where the sounds used are interesting and relatively unique the obvious reference to and mixing of other musical styles is really a key part of CR’s music, they are not jsut relying on their influences as rskva believes. With fever Ray there is the whole dark tribal thing which goes with the lyrics and music and is separate from Silent Shout with it’s own accompanying visuals etc. etc..
Really Silent Shout Compares well to Kate Bush’s The Dreaming, I can’t think of a good comparison for CocoRosie, maybe Ziggy Stardust era Bowie but that doesn’t quite fit…
As far as “social/sexual commentary” is concerned it’s not something I think about when listening to Silent Shout or CR. Obviously “One Hit” and “Na Na Na” have obvious feminist undertones but I think that’s just a refection of the Knife themselves and the views they hold rather than an example of how they’re using their music as a medium to get their agenda across and make this “commentary”. With Deep cuts they were very obviously making social commentary their primary objective even with their publicity around the album, but honestly Deep cuts to me seems (as you say about CR) distanced and disdainful, they don’t really commit to it and most of the music is complete crap (it probably isn’t quite so bad as I can’t help feeling it is when I think of how unbelievably brillant Silent Shout is). I really like “You Take My Breath Away” though and honestly I like it in a similar way to how I enjoy CR’s music. It could be a CocoRosie song musically and lyrically, especially the rap bit “I like vanilla and I like sex, I ride the pony that I like best” genius :) and the way they use hip hop beats in a song about sexual naivety in contrast to the hypersexual nature of hip hop songs is much like how CocoRosie use hip hop in a song about peace and childishness (RainboWarriors) in contrast to the violent nature of a lot of current hip hop. both songs throwing in interesting home made sounding elements.
As regards the singing style of Bjork I one hundred per cent disagree, there are two vocalists in CocoRosie and the one who does sound a bit like Bjork does not overdo her singing style nearly as much as Bjork herself and the vocal affectation is definitely distinct from Bjorks in many ways.
To go off topic for a bit, it is interesting how the media focuses on Karin in the Knife and forgets Olof and not surprising that there is very little mention of Oni Ayhun from the Knife’s website while they were more than willing to inform Knife fans about Fever Ray. Still it would be great if Oni Ayhun’s music got more attention with or without mention of the Knife, has Stereogum ever posted about Oni Ayhun?
I totally agree, also I think Antony mentioning the oil spill and even feminism was a little obtuse. Although with feminism I understand what he means about their choosing not to have sex appeal and wear beards, but that’s more of an issue in the mainstream media and less important for their kind of market.
This is insanely exciting, and there’ll be new MOM later in 2010
what a year! :)
Fever Ray’s distinctive style:
Old people – Seven
Big old mansion- If I Had A Heart and Stranger Than Kindness
( Of course) Tribal stuff- basically every video as well as her live show.
Oh yeah, and generally a shadowy foreboding kinda look.
And other Fever Rayish things include mist and lasers and mirrors and masks and antique lamps- Triangle Walks, Stranger than kindness and live show
But yeah, there is much about the video which is very CocoRosie like a big glowing pink crystal… sensational!
Loadsa peepz show the influence of Fever Ray in their visuals
Or this vid shows the live show kind of influence and colours .The video isn’t that good but I love Zola Jesus, so iz xool
and the new dead weather album cover
The vocalist is even wearing a Knife mask.
How subtle >:o hah
the antique lamps were not as popular