I agree with his criticisms, but it’s kind of foolish for him to publicly make these statements. It’s makes him come across and petty and childish. Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam also have some of the most macho lunkheaded fan bases full of bro’s who are going apeshit cause Corgan dared to criticize their favorite bands.
My view is this, both bands started off strong for the first three albums and then lost it.
S/T album – his best work, great album start to finish (as well as all the b-sides and live bootlegs from that era).
Colour and Shape – good, but overproduced.
Nothing Left to Lose, their last good album, pretty solid album from start to finish.
One By One – this is where they started to sound like Nickelback for the next 14 years.
Ten – some classic singles, but can still hear remnants of hair metal.
VS – more aggressive sound, some classic tracks, good album
Vitalogy – by far their best album
No Code – good album but their downward trajectory started here…
Nice, I need my fix of decrepit scary old woman vocals.
Same kind of progression but in a different key. Green Day’s song is in G, while ‘Glycerine’ is in F.
Sixteen Stone is a good slice of post-grunge. Razorblade Suitcase was even better, great Albini production, and some really good moody slower songs on the second half of the album. ‘The Science of Things’ had some excellent tracks too, kind of underrated.
NOTHING – Guilty of Everything (big oversight that this isn’t included on stereogum’s list)
Whirr – Sway
Sun Kil Moon – Benji
War On Drugs – Lost in the Dream
Smashing Pumpkins – Monuments to an Elegy
Ty Segall – Manipulator
Yes, of course others great records were released in the 2000′s. But the reviewer said that there are hundreds of albums released every year that are better than Machina, Zeitgeist, and Oceania. Libertines and Strokes were incredibly OVERRATED, just like those bores the Artic Monkeys. Even SP’s weakest output is better than any of those bands best material. Strokes were a bunch of rich boarding school brats who didn’t have to work for anything.
Thumbs down all you like. But his statement is still ridiculous. You’re lucky if there are 10 decent albums released in a year. Let alone hundreds. I can think of few current “rock” bands releasing good albums. Yeah, Royal Blood. who else? Back up your ridiculous claim with a list.
Seriously, this reviewer makes some pretty ridiculous and bold proclamations. Corgan was one of the best lyricists in rock in his heyday. MCIS has some great lyrics overall, some very poetic stuff.
“There are hundreds of albums released every year that are better than the MACHINA records, Zeitgeist, and Oceania.”
Uh…no. It’s hard to take this review seriously when you say stuff like that.