Don’t you guys realize that the “content farms” Carles mentions in his (totally brilliant) HRO piece–you know, the ones that ejaculate “listicles, contrived SEO-inspired Bleacher Report-wave think pieces, and other lame ass content that is… lucrative and successful”–that that’s you?
You don’t seem to acknowledge that you’re complicit in the proverbial “boxing in” of indie music. Your content is totally regressive–listing the top 10 albums and songs for every fucking band in existence is trite, reductive, and totally boxes in art by furiously comparing it to itself ALL the time.
Stereogum: you are the problem.
The number at which she’s placed on the list has no bearing on what I said? Are you willing to argue that people AREN’T miffed about their decision to include her? And that controversy doesn’t attract pageviews? Your snark is admirable but I don’t see your point.
Ok guys. Let’s pause for a second here and admit that this Taylor Swift addition is just another BS ploy on part of Stereogum to piss people off and increase web-traffic. It’s so frustratingly transparent.
If we get pissed off, Stereogum says we’re taking ourselves too seriously. We’re close-minded. We’re biased. We fail to appreciate mainstream pop solely because it’s mainstream.
They respond to our outrage by writing a think-piece about the intersection of pop and indie. “How far is too far?” they’ll ask. “When will the indie-rock ‘bubble’ burst? When will we be free to appreciate art as art?” It’s a hit, a web-traffic Woodstock, and people flock from all corners of the internet to sound off (I smell ad revenue!)
They thus manufacture this faux conflict between those who appreciate Tay Swift for her “pure pop craftsmanship” and those who are “stuck in the past”, trapped by their inherent bias against Top-40 garbage and pathetically latched onto a bygone era when “Indie” didn’t include Swift’s brand of trite, sycophantic crap.
Of course, in reality, 95% of readers disagree with the inclusion of Taylor Swift on this list at all and likely don’t give a shit about her music. But whatever.
So we accuse Stereogum of doing exactly what they’re doing (that is, fishin’ for hits/manufacturing controversy).
“What?” they say. “Why would placing Taylor Swift, an artist whose target demographic is pre-teenagers and whose face appears on many a sixth graders lunch box, higher on our year-end list than Beach House, Death Grips, Ty Segall, Bat For Lashes, Flying Lotus, AnCo, Diiv, Killer Mike, Father John Misty, and many, many other talented artists beloved by our reader base piss said reader base off? Why would randomly placing such an artist onto a list that otherwise panders to our Pitchfork saturated readership make them angry?” They really want to know!
Deny it all you want, Stereogum. You guys know that this shit gets people going. The quality of Swift’s music is not even what gets ‘em though (even though her work absolutely does not demonstrate the same quality, intelligence and emotional depth the work you snubbed to place her so high on your list does), it’s that you guys are an “independent and alternative music news” site (or at least you claim to be in your “About” section) touting the same crap my 14 year old niece loves because 17 Magazine tells her she should. I’m over it.
Yes, this is a rant. But as a daily reader who really loved you guys a few years ago, I’m more sad than angry that I have to shovel through “provocative” crap just to get some news.
You’re now the indie-rock equivalent of the New York Post. Congrats.
Gotta make room for Taylor Swift somehow.
I wouldn’t use ALL of the expletives Wesley used, but I would say that the Tay Swift entry is ironic trendy bullshit.
Then again, at a site for whom hits >>>> actual content, you shouldn’t expect any less. It’s been a drag to watch this site turn into an indie music firebrand/arbitrary list generating machine since the LDR fiasco.
He’d probably roundhouse kick Chaz Bundick
Lana Del Rey goes for walk, authenticity of said action in question.
Creed? Everclear? Bush? It’s 2012, my friend. And those bands sucked in the 90s, too.
So very right. “Lotus Flower” still rocks the shit.
Helplessness Blues is #1 for me, too.
If Wayne Coyne had collagen-filled lips I’d still love The Soft Bulletin–the bottom line is that this music is bad.
So glad Cass McCombs is finally being recognized as the exceptional songwriter he is. His entire philosophy on his work feels so fresh…
So, Brian Wilson’s lost masterpiece “Smile” is FINALLY given proper release this week, to the delight of many-a music nerd’s ears… An album many have been waiting their entire lives to hear, by one of the greatest and most influential bands of all time… and… Miranda fucking Lambert is the album of the week? You’re high off your ass if you think this is the best album of ANY week. Imagine that Hemingway had a long lost masterpiece which had never been published and were finally to see the light of day and the NYTimes Book Review pushed it to the back page in favor of the new Twilight novel. Get why people are upset? People don’t come to Stereogum to read about Miranda Lambert. It doesn’t matter if it’s great or if it’s shit. Country is a genre that Stereogum readers simply are not interested in. Please… your “about” page says that you’re “…the leading online community for INDEPENDENT and ALTERNATIVE music news”.
^^^ That’s where I’ll read about my favorite “Country music stars”.
What ARE you about?
It’s about time indie rock got political.
I, too, express emotion through gender stereotypes.