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Why are guys like this allowed to post homophobic, xenophobic hate speech and all anyone really does is laugh about it? haven’t the Scots been through enough?
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I am sure Cobain would have loved that band. Monster Energy Drink stickers, American Flag pants, Affliction shirts.
It will certainly be as big as Graceland. No doubt.
What is with that awkward shot where the news guy is walking up the road behind all of those unsuspecting guys on the sidewalk? Does that one guy have a beer in his hand?
Why didn’t they interview any of the dissenters? I think that maybe the only one against Kurt Cobain day is the newscaster.
I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that what they’re doing is hard to understand as an American, but it just seems to me like they are asking to get killed.
Also, I just have to comment on the guy in the “collective”: Don’t do something like that and then act like a bitch when you get a bloody nose. The women are like 300x tougher than you.
I am willing to listen to what they have to say, but it all seems so broad. I’ve listened to interviews, etc. I just don’t understand their point. They have to know that what they are doing is going to affect little change, so why do it? Why not take a more effective route with the fame? Do more interviews, etc.
If you watch their video, it all seems so dramatic with the background music, etc. The Telegraph video above just seems kind of stupid, like super-hyped highschool fights that (thank God, in retrospect) never really amount to more than a few shoves and insults.
I understand his issues with porn. I am not an anti-sex person, but I think the extreme access to porn is a negative thing for the younger generation. It cheapens sex, and not just from an ethical perspective. I am younger than Drew, but of an age where we used to stay up late and try to see HBO boobs through TV static. It made things much more exciting once you actually started dating. You cannot un-invent something, though.
Chris, I want to like you based on your side of the argument, but now I am going to pretend to believe that there are secret built-in wireless systems just to be on the other guys’ side.
That said, I will upvote your post if you promise to be nice, change your name to Minstrel Gigolo and stop posting about this.
So he’s a self-gratulating prick who likes play pickup basketball and to get into fights? How is that any different than a frat boy? What’s up bro!
Win Butler is definitely a dork. I think most of us know that… There are plenty of successful dorks out there. He is also a rock star, but those things are not mutually exclusive. Win is a dork that makes fantastic music.
I think it would have looked better if Win simply would have played dumb to the negative review. That would have cut Richards much, much deeper.
What is with the sentiment around Stereogum that it is perfectly fine for Win to call himself a rock star simply because it is true? Would it be fine for him to walk around saying, “I’m not a dork because I am rich and white?” Some things are better left unsaid. In my opinion, the second you call yourself a rock star, you cease to be just that…
I’m not sure why you are calling it a waste. Can you explain?
The money will go to a good cause, presuming the red tape is eliminated. I’m not a particularly large proponent of prison outreach – I’m certainly not against it – but I think it trumps the $30k going to some street marketing/promotion team. We all know that is where it would have been spent had the prize gone to another winner.
More importantly, though, the shortlist was somewhat weak, and the prize is given to the band who makes the best record, right? I think it is wrong to suggest that the prize should go to whoever the panel thinks will spend the money in a certain way. I would think most would agree.
I am interested to hear your thought process on why you’d call it a waste. I am also intrigued by your suggestion that it is a “lifetime achievement” award. Do you not think Allelujah! Don’t Bend! Ascend! was good in and of itself? I’d rank it much higher than the others on the shortlist.
Okay, so if Kanye had been standing with Kim and – out of a fit of passion – punched the punk for talking that way, I would be okay with it. The fact that he arrived later and went looking for the guy in another office is just scary.
No good came from this: Kanye will get charged and the racist punk gets a payday.
How do you not get charged for going after someone? I mean, it isn’t like the judge is going to say, “Yeah, since you’re Kanye and the guy deserved it, I guess it is fine that you pummeled him.”
Why was the guitarist such a jerk to Letterman at the end?
I just wanted to chime in to say that I was one of those kids in 2nd grade watching the Challenger launch on live TV in class. I went to Catholic school, and as soon as the shuttle exploded, the TVs were turned off and we went straight to church to have a special Mass said for the crew. I still remember the priest talking about the bravery of the crew. Definitely a memorable moment for me. More so than most disasters that have happened since, save for 9/11.
Playing a concert in a church?
Everyone… Take 2 seconds and click through to the Rolling Stone article.
Wayne Coyne appears to be complimenting Arcade Fire, not “throwing shade.” When asked about year-end rock that is important, Wayne – after admitting that they are not his thing – says Arcade Fire got together with James Murphy and tried to make something important, adding that people are into the album.
Context is everything.
Ben, I downvoted you because it seemed like you were using this as an opportunity to make a political statement on sentencing. Hell, I agree with you for the most part but this is a case where you’re just going to come off looking like an asshole trying to argue against longer sentences. I am willing to bet that greater than 50% of the people currently locked up in the US are in for longer than they deserve, but this sicko isn’t the guy you want to get behind when stating that case. This guy deserves every day (and more).
Save that battle for the next time a lead singer gets a marijuana possession charge.
It doesn’t matter. This guy won’t make it a month once he is off whatever initial protection he might have at the outset. Hell, I’d be surprised if the guards don’t let him get ripped apart on the first day, however terrible that might be in principle.
Even with a forgiving heart, it is hard to have empathy for someone who abuses babies, sexually or otherwise….
But it did work. You see, someone in the Virgin ad group got their sponsored post up on the site, which was what they were asked to do. Stereogum got paid, which is good for them. We’re all talking about #BreakFree, which is all Virgin cares about, even if it is how stupid the post is… When it comes down to it, you’re aware of #BreakFree now, and it isn’t like they did something so offensive that you will avoid their service (or this promotion) due to the post.
In the end, this is actually a success. Sometimes it is frustrating, but marketing in this manner works.
I’m here for Toad the Wet Sprocket! Glad to see them getting some good press. I’ll be sure to visit the site more often!!! #BreakFree
Gotta Run, heading to the Verve Pipe show! “We were merely freshmen!!!”
Indie Niche Artist = Coldplay
I’m hesitant to respond because it looks like you’re trolling. But, as a father to two little girls, maybe I can explain…
There is no shortage of building kits and science-based toys in colors like green, red and blue. They are typically targeted to boys. Say what you will about the color pink, but little girls love it. They just do. I am sure there are exceptions, but I have raised my girls on punk rock and sports and they still love pink. They would rather have a pink science kit with rainbows and unicorns on it. I think that is fine. There is nothing wrong with that.
I am not sure why you take issue with a blond girl as their mascot. Do you hate blond girls? They are called GoldieBlox for Pete’s sake. Are we supposed to hate blond people now? Their calling is to make more girl-friendly educational toys: science, math, etc. Their calling isn’t to have the most socially-conscious mascot. If anything, I take the most offense to the intentional misspelling of the word blocks.
Anyway… do you have any kids?
I agree that the idea behind Spotify is a legit, but I am wondering if the cost just isn’t sustainable. I mean, why do I pay $200 for – lets be honest – crap on TV and think it is okay? Internet-wise, all of the heavy lifting is done at the office (which I pay for, as well), so I would gladly pay a higher fee to unlimited access to music in order for artists to be better compensated.
Obviously actors on TV are making money, right? I mean, you don’t hear many stories about James Van Der Beak living in a 400 square-foot apartment, eating beans out of a can. It works for TV, so maybe it can work for music. I am trying to be solutions-oriented. I think we would all pay more for music if we knew it was getting to the artists.
I am not sure Spotify is evil, necessarily. I just think they charge too little for their service. It needs to be more expensive. Someone needs to come along and create a platform where artists make a sustainable living while consumers have clear access to content. There has to be a way to make it happen, even if it requires that older music is not included. For instance, Radiohead has a catalog of music that is dripping with music executive royalties. What if they decided that all of their future music would be available to a new Spotify-like service that charges users like $100 a month. obviously, other bands could do the same and it critical mass would eventually make it worth-while to the consumer. It seems like it is doable…
The take-down notices were not filed by Lowery. They were filed by the NMPA, based on a study that he conducted. I have no opinion on Lowery’s music because I have never heard it. I am guessing I might recognize that Cracker song, but I am not sure. I just want everyone to be clear on the fact that Lowery is not personally going after these lyric sites.
Here is something to consider… As a thirty-something with kids, I spend almost $200 a month on a Time Warner package that I barely use. I mean, a home phone (really?), slow internet and digital cable. There is nothing on cable that I want to see, save for sporting events and the occasional news. I pay for like 600 channels of garbage, but feel fine spending $200 a month for it. Our home internet gets used, but never for anything of note: email, occasional browsing, etc. Why do we as a culture feel like that is okay but wince at paying for an album?
What if a service were to charge a solid fee, like $150 – $200 a month for unlimited access to content. Could they then pay more to the artists? What if you could create an a la carte type of “channel” based on genre or something…? I feel like I would do that.
i want artists to make more money. I enjoy music, but I also felt fine paying $15 for a tape or cd back in the day. That felt fair. In my book, we cannot bitch and moan about artists not making any money and then go and stream free albums all day long. Music is something worth paying for, IMHO.
I thought you were friendly and asked decent questions. He didn’t really seem all that unfriendly. The whole thing just felt very awkward, especially when you brought up Ramona. From the get-go, he didn’t want to be answering your questions…
Since you mentioned NPR, I would recommend checking out the recent Radio Times podcast about whether we should ban tipping in restaurants. As a guest, Marty had some guy from Cornell University who is an expert on tipping. Every time she asked him a question, he seemed like it was a pain in his ass to respond and always answered in a super laconic way. You could tell she wanted to kick him in the nuts. Anyway, reminded me of this…
I have to admit that I am a little concerned about the increase in this type of thing. Maybe it is just covered more.
That said, she handled this the wrong way. She should have caught the thing, taken a bite and asked if he had fries. Either that or laugh it off and hand out 100 cheeseburgers at their next show.
Now she is just going to have people throwing cheeseburgers at her all the time.
I don’t think I have ever heard a Foals song, so I won’t comment on the band. I will say, though, that I get his point about vinyl. I mean, if you’re a chef and you create a solid dish that someone decides to mush up in a blender, add water and drink through a straw, you might be inclined to recommend that they eat it the way it was intended.
I have vinyl and I like it, but I also listen to digital. As a music consumer, I typically do what I can to hear music when I want (working out, at the office, in the kitchen, etc…) If I MADE music, I might have a different opinion.
The guy is free to have his opinion on the issue. I don’t care. Maybe I will open Spotify and listen to a Foals song.
I hear what you are saying, but isn’t it less of a double standard since he is a guy and we are discussing his appearance? I mean, wasn’t that Lauren’s beef in the first place, that no one took her art seriously since she was a woman?
In my opinion, people are going to discuss an artist’s looks. As long as it is done tastefully, it doesn’t bother me. In this particular instance, I do not think it should even be questioned due to his dramatic change in appearance. I mean, c’mon. He is like bizarro-Mangum here.
I would hope that most people on this site can question someone’s appearance and still appreciate their art. FWIW, I think Robin looks great here. I only questioned his choice of shirt. Even that was more of a “I wonder why” thing. i think the CHVRCHES thing was more about blatant sexual comments being directed towards Lauren.