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My point is that, within Graves assumed artistic subgenre (typing this is making me realize how innane this whole conversation is, but we’re too far gone!), there is a legacy of borderless expression–if Patti Smith wants to say n^gger that’s her right. We can say we don’t like it (which we have) but at the end of the day we cannot regulate her art. You’ve suggested a similar point in your comment, dansolo.
My concern is that Graves implicitly believes there is a parallel, equal or better, artistic universe where people cannot offend, where one is limited in what they can and cannot say. And yes, ideally this is a good idea–nobody wants hurt feelings. But think of all that is lost when we eliminate language–example, movie in theaters v movie on any Turner station.
I’m afraid if people like Graves take control of music opinion (she won’t) then we will write off any artists who offend the majority–one that is moving towards an online community of people who like taking offense. The music listening majority is not America’s majority (ie white people), it’s the internet (upper middle class white kids?). And the internet loves loves loves to be offended and take up digital picket signs via hashtags and comment threads.
The whole digital protest idea beckons the question, why even bother, Graves? To some extent she is just accumulating digital currency: I wrote a pandering essay on a premier music website, said buzz words/themes, so like my band on facebook, hear our new single on spotify. I cannot help but think this was done, consciously or otherwise, with the thought of improving her own clout.
If she really cared or believed what she said, she would do something in the public physical sphere. If she did that I’d shake her hand and buy her a coffee. But until then it’s just another voice in a sea of verbiage–like me!
Isn’t Perfect Pussy a punk band? Legs McNeil, founder of Punk Magazine, said that, “Mass movements are so un-hip.” And that liberation movements were, “the beginning of political correctness, which was just fascism to us. Real fascism. More rules.”
So what is it? Maybe Meredith Graves should look to Patti Smith and her song “Rock N Roll N^gger”. White punks used racist colloquialisms as artistic expression, I am not condoning such expression but it illustrates the point that it has always happened even in liberal minded groups like the punks.
I completely agree with blochead’s sentiment, this zealous, hyper-analytic pandering is frustrating. She wants a “better music scene” but what would her image of a better music scene be exactly? Given the context of her argument it would be one where nobody said offensive things and could only be subversive if it did not offend a minority or suppressed socioeconomic group. Very punk.
“wah-wah” really loses its touch at this speed and without the wahwah/talkbox
Really glad to see the Cymbals Eat Guitars’ “LOSE” get the recognition it deserves. What an awesome piece of music! Still trying to wrap my head around the whole thing, but it’s right up there with “Lost in the Dream”.
they stopped drinking
happy birthday jerry!
some people can never be saved