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The summer between my senior year of high school and freshman year of college I picked up Maroon 5's debut after hearing "Harder To Breathe" on 92.7 LIR (for those of you in the tri-state area, you'll maybe remember that station). Enjoyed that record, forgot about it until over a year later when it finally caught on. Still will back that record and most of the second one. If poptimism existed in those days, I'm sure it would have gotten some 'Gum love. That being said, so weird to think that THAT band is still around and doing THIS.
Also, doesn't include the Japanese bonus track ("Prom Night")
Interestingly, the only thing I hear about this record are around the sales statistics. There is very little written about if it's even GOOD or not.
"Feeling This" definitely needs to be on here. Btw, it's so weird to read this list on Stereogum of all places. Remember, this is a site that once posted an article merely titled "System Of A Down has fans?!?!?! This surprises me". Hopefully we'll get a 10 best SOAD songs soon.
Doesn't sound like they had an issue marketing whatever he put out so much as the guy (talented as he is) must just be a pain in the ass to work with.
Sense of speed missing from American Idiot? Have you not listened to St. Jimmy?
This speaks to my typical American ignorance but is $91 extremely high for most concert goers? In the states, and maybe I'm biased living in NYC, sure it's a high price but not THAT high of a price where I'd consider suing.
Heard her voice crack on one of the songs so they were definitely live. Everything else was pre-recorded though. Not something i'd pay $90 for if it wasn't part of a festival with other acts.
These kind of leaks still fascinate me. Perhaps it was someone at Apple/iTunes? I'm assuming this release was digital only so it was probably a fuck-up on the label's end.
Rock The Bells was always supposed to be a one-off thing I thought. Remember Amsterjam held at Randalls Island?
Great article. Too bad we ain't g-chat friends or something, I could talk about this shit all day. Don't forget that AEG purchased Bowery Presents who, from what I understand, kill Live Nation in NYC when it come to talent relations. I'm not sure if that means you'll start seeing more "indie/critically approved" type bands playing the Playstation Theatre but I'd expect Bowery to leverage those relationships since many bands come up exclusively using them. Mercury Lounge -> Bowery Ballroom -> Terminal 5 (previously Webster Hall though I think they are now independently booked) -> MSG/Radio City/Summerstage/Barclays. Live Nation only exclusively books Irving Plaza (who has had better bookings recently), Gramercy Theatre (which rarely has any thing worth a shit) and that new godawful ampitheater in Coney Island which might as well brand itself "NO SOUND EXCEPT FOR BASS AND DRUMS ALLOWED". Otherwise they compete with AEG/Bowery presents for Summerstage, MSG, Radio City, Hammerstein Ballroom. If Live Nation and AEG can both give acts more money for exclusivity to their festivals, ticket prices will jump up and both festivals will be half full.
Yeah but NYC gets all the exclusives, I got to see him play Webster Hall (1400-capacity) and also have the option to go to Radio City which....I'm still stirring over. A seated theater is definitely the right place for him as opposed to a club (more loud talkers there) but it's such a big room you lose a lot of the intimacy.
I don't really see how Mechanical Animals falls into that category. It's definitely MORE accessible than Antichrist Superstar as I recall. Same goes for Bon Iver, Bon Iver
Like every post-90's Weezer album it has some hits (If You're Wondering, Turn Me Round) and misses. The misses FAR outnumber the hits and are the lowest lows of all Weezer albums which is why I think most people regard it so poorly. I'll still listen to Raditude over Make Believe any day though.
More rhythmic/electronic/hip-hop leaning than Gov Ball this year so there may not be as much crossover between the festivals we initially thought. Not that hip-hop fans don't like indie and vice versa but I don't see this to be AS appealing to a fan of Chvrches, Haim, Of Monsters and Men, etc.
"People act like we shitted directly into Jeff Mangum’s nostrils." Holy shit, can you actually do that? Would be hilarious. Would be funny if you did that to the Arcade Fire members too.
I believe the top Bruce tickets are still faced at only around $150. It won't allow the consumer to save but it will put money in the hands of the acts as opposed to scalpers (though, a lot of the time, they are one in the same).
You hit on an excellent point many people don't want to own up to (specifically the acts). A lot of tickets are priced BELOW market. For example, Pearl Jam is playing MSG and tickets go on sale tomorrow. Every ticket, whether it be front or row or nosebleeds, is $89. This gives people an insane amount of ability to scalp. I think the problem is that the acts are concerned about their image so that's why there are all these back door deals. I don't actually think the bot issue accounts for why so many tickets end up on StubHub and other resller sites. The band, promoter, venue themselves usually feed those directly into the reseller market and then hide under this "sorry guys, it's not us, IT'S DAH SCALPAZ" mindset. My recommendation is more dynamic pricing. If Springsteen front row tickets routinely go for $300, why not charge that to begin with?
As someone who grew up in the suburbs of New York, has lived in the city for nearly a decade and who attends around 100 shows a year, I have much to say on this. Festivals in NYC were a hard sell for acts for a long time because, as the Billboard article indicates, New York is such a lucrative market for most acts. There are certain acts that have headlines MSG/Barclays here who could only fill mid-sizes theaters is most cities (The National, Alt-J, Death Cab For Cutie, The Postal Service, Sigur Ros, Interpol, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, MGMT and, um, Dashboard Confessional). There is something exciting to those acts about playing such a big name arena as Madison Square Garden and, I guess, Barclays Center so it used to be you wouldn't give up that opportunity to play a show in a field in New Jersey. However, as we've all seen in the past 10 years, festivals are becoming more and more prevalent. So much so that there are several which basically function as McFestivals (Shaky Knees, Firefly, Hangout, etc.) with no discerning personality or character to them. New Yorkers used to fall back on the idea that they'd catch their favorite band play their own headlining show and, while they still can, the party-vibe of Governors Ball is very enticing to the more general music fans who can catch most of the acts they want in one sweep. So, what it boils down to for non concert freaks like myself is simply which has the better lineup and is the most convenient. All Points West in 2008 was basically a Radiohead concert with a bunch of bands who, at the time, could at most play Hammerstein Ballroom so it didn't draw well. (SIDENOTE: Several of them such as Kings Of Leon, Animal Collective, Metric, The New Pornographers and Grizzly Bear were well on the upswing then and, if that lineup were in 2012, it would have killed. Duffy also played, remember her?). APW had strong headliners and a fairly decent undercard but the hassle of taking the ferry and it not being convenient for most of the tri-state area definitely hurt it. Governors Ball succeeded by booking the most middlebrow lineup that appeals to the largest number of people and ALSO the music nerds. If the rumors are true, the only trick Panorama has up its sleeve at this point is LCD Soundsystem since their other two headliners originally planned (Mumford, Florence) couldn't do it based on scheduling. If Panorama really brings it lineup-wise, they might do well this year but otherwise it'll be a loss-leader. However, if AEG continues to strong-arm acts then Governors Ball won't be long for this world which is sad because as a middle class 32-year-old music fan in NYC, I'd love for two big festivals to be easily available AND have the luxury of sleeping in my bed that night. One other fun ghost of NYC festival past that I didn't attend due to having to be up in college was Across The Narrows in 2005. If we all can look back a decade ago, I think a lot of us would have jumped to go to a 2-day festival featuring Oasis, The Pixies, The Killers, Beck, Interpol, Jet, The Lemonheads, Kasabian, Belle and Sebastian and more. However, I can't imagine many of us would be trekking out to Staten Island to do so: http://www.ohmyrockness.com/features/138-across-the-narrows-2-days-4-shows-2-boroughs-1-lifetime-of-memories-until-the-next-festival
So sad they left on such rough terms. I'm glad I saw them in 2012 at one of the final performances they had with Scott.
The Weeknd filled multiple arenas in the NYC area recently and I'm guess Florence will do the same when comes back to the East coast so....both seem to be able to do so in my eyes.
Makes 100% sense to me. As someone who is 31, I still maintain a fairly rigid concert schedule but 95% of my peers have simply aged out of these things. In your 30's you tend to make a little more money than when you were fresh out of college thus why you will pay to be comfortable. Additionally, MOST people in that age range don't find standing around in a balls-hot environment next to drunk/Molly-tripping teenagers to be all that fun. I can't wait for these think-pieces in 15-20 years when commenters are yearning for "glory years" of The Weeknd, Sam Smith, Major Lazer and Disclosure.
Great for Dave doing this from the throne. That said, Foo Fighters setlists are stale as shit though give them points for busting out "Alone & Easy Target" along with "Generator". Finally, "Monkeywrench" packs a punch because it's tight and lean. Why oh why do they need to extend it to 8 minutes doing that stupid breakdown every time now?
Billy Corgan comes to mind. Also that Sun Kill Moon guy (don't care to remember his name).
That's some stupid old media thinking. No point in any of these rolling release dates any more. Once an album is out it's OUT. Hope they enjoy losing potential sales in North America/Europe to early downloads.
They are all pretty much the same. People don't want to visit 3 or 4 different streaming platforms to get all their content so whoever has the largest catalog and the rights to the biggest artists will probably win in the end.
Lana Del Rey's set sucked and it wasn't just due to the lack of volume. Those vocals sounded a bit TOO perfect which leads me to believe they weren't entirely live. I saw her a few years ago at Irving Plaza and that was fairly dismal too which leads me to believe that she just isn't a good live performer.
Is Mary J Blige big enough to headline a festival?
The War On Drugs??? Nah bra, even though I enjoy their last 2 records from time to time. Also, The Killers will have a phenomenal greatest hits set in 1-2 records.
Clueless soundtrack had this song by a minor blip on the alternative nation scene in 1995, "Fake Plastic Trees" by Radiohead. I believe that same band once played the MTV Beach House.
Modern Guilt over Midnite Vultures?!?!?! Homeboy, you are TRIPPIN!
Wouldn't really lump Candlebox in with them. They were basically a classic rock band that just put on some flannel to appear to be more "alternative" (similar to Collective Soul). There were some solid tunes on that debut album too.
For anyone who works in the business, do the promoters pay for all this stuff (hotel room, food, booze, etc.) on top of the guarantee the artist gets OR does that come out of the guarantee?
Another classic case of lazy journalism. Silverchair's Diorama stands as a great record years later and was LIGHT years different from their grunge-in-pajamas debut.
I imagine the price depends on the area. Jack recently played MSG and no way any promoter can book someone at that venue for under $150-200k. Oklahoma/college prices are probably a little cheaper due to their being less overhead in terms of venue rental.
I mean, no way Puddle of Mudd would headline over kid Rock.
Apparently not. Though they are far more interesting, left-of-center, indie-leaning than the likes of War On Drugs, FKA Twigs, Father John Misty and what not, because they once toured on the Vans Warped Tour and were associated with those types of acts, sites like Stereogum continue to ignore them.
What are you talkin about man? Cherry Poppin Daddies are coming back any day now.