the thing is, Conor is so small and weak that he'd have trouble forcing himself on a Tickle-Me-Elmo doll.
but seriously, rapists should have their dicks cut off.
While it was no where near an official release, but I have an old (mostly) acoustic set from the Siamese Dream- era called Mayonnaise Dream.
I'd strongly, strongly recommend it to anyone looking to bolster their Pumpkins' 'prime' catalog. The acoustic version of Mayonnaise is worth it alone.
I always related Oh Inverted World to the Beach Boys, and though I realize it's not completely analogous, Chutes Too Narrow will always be their 'Pet Sounds' in my head.
Overintellectualize it all you want...this is attention whore-dom at its worst.
It's not even like she took the photo. It's not her 'art.' She's just a desperate skank in a shower.
When the shallow kiddie pool of talent dries up and all else fails, show your tits! Woooo!
Yeah, what a statement.
Maybe a more intriguing discussion is how 'independent' music media's shift towards the 'pop/hip-hop-is now-cool-again' thinking has impacted listeners who would have never listened to the shit in the first place.
It's fairly obvious now that most 'indie' listeners' favorite music outlets (p4k, spin, SG, etc) simply latched onto more-mainstream pop and rap coverage because those in charge felt that indie was losing its appeal in attracting page hits.
For awhile, it wasn't cool to like pop.
The first waves of pseudo-authentic modern hipster-ism killed it.
Then people got so sick of hipsters and it became cool to like pop again, but only as a backlash to that original backlash.
In a way it seems that the modern pop resurgence among 'alternative' media is actually being hipster-ish about hipster-ism.
I agree with you Michael Hanna.
It used to be that music itself often dictated culture, politics, trends, etc, without a sole emphases on commercialism. The 'ugly' artists from the 60's (think Dylan, the Dead, CSNY) wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of 'making it' today based on aesthetics alone.
These days it's bass-ackwards...the trends dictate the music. 'Stars' form overnight to capitalize on demographics, 'scenes,' and culture. (looking at you, hipsters). Authenticity, for what it's worth, counts for almost nothing in 2013.
Now we have these constructed pop stars with minimal talent getting teams of 15-20 people to write their lyrics, melodies, production, clothing, force into movies, etc.
If you had a magic wand to replace say, Katy Perry, with another singer and throw all the same money and production behind her, I'm fairly confident saying that the end product would not drastically change. Modern pop (Perry, Gaga, Timberlake, Miley, Beiber, et all) are more 'product' than musician. You can't take John out of the Beatles and still have the Beatles. You can't take Jerry out of the Dead and still have the Dead.
The worst part to me is that there's no one with enough clout to say 'Stop!' (probably because the $$$ is rolling in). But younger listeners especially continue to idolize the Mileys and Beibers of the world because they simply don't know any better. Most publications and media aren't doing a whole lot to combat those notions, either.
The best case scenario is to wait until all the shit just isn't 'cool' anymore. Aren't we sick of the 'vapid pop-star' yet?
Rap has once again reverted to style over substance.
Exec 1: Oh look we got a guy with dreads tats and chains.
Exec 2: Can he rap?
Exec 1: No, but he can scream real good about money, cars, drugs and hos...more importantly he LOOKS looks like a rapper.
Exec 2: Sign 'em up. We'll worry about talent later. Suburban kids will eat this @#$% up.
The quickest avenue to success in modern hip-hop is to become a glorified cartoon character. It fucking sucks.
I know it's been discussed again and again but I really feel that it's a simple matter regarding authenticity. People want the real thing, and it's not difficult to know when you're getting played.
Most people that take their music listening habits seriously can see right through contrivedness of top 40/radio bullshit. It comes across in the music too. It's pretty obvious that Mumford et all are rolling in the $ yet posturing as this small-town 'let's go play a jaunty tale at the local fishermens' pub' bullshit. Think of how many shitty bands Nirvana spawned in the 90's, or The Strokes spawned in the 00's. None eclipse the original, yet everyone is trying to capitalize on the market once it becomes 'sellable' for mass appeal. For all intents and purposes, it kills the genre once other artists jump on an archetype to make money. That's what has happened over the past year or so with the 'civil-war-wave' banjo & suspenders genre. It's cooked.
To use another analogy, music consumption is alot like food consumption. Sure, once in awhile I'll eat shit and like it, even though a)I know it's shit and b)I will inevitable hate myself for it. But when you're going out for a nice meal, you don't want your tikka masala or sushi coming from 18 year old white dudes in the kitchen. Sure, they can get close to an 'authentic' product, but underneath it all you just know in your heart of hearts that it's lacking. That's sort of how I feel listening to the artists in question.
Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but it's something no one's brought up yet that's probably worth mentioning.
To me, "Hey Ya" barely qualifies as an Outkast song.
By the time Speakerboxxx/The Love Below came out, Dre and Big were already heading in separate directions. It's Outkast, sure, but in name only...and even then, not really. They couldn't even decide on one title.
Shouldn't the "10 best..." list feature songs that prominently feature (all) members of the group in question? There are certainly enough..
in my examination 'hipster bands' is not what the list is really about. what they're getting at is the bands most pumped up by phonies, not hipsters.
it's sort of a 'I listen to (insert list band) because I think it gets me indie/hipster 'cred' but I probably wouldn't like it other than the fact that some obscure blog/website/friend touted it and I have trouble forming an original opinion on anything' list.
shocked that dirty projectors and grimes aren't on this.
and no, lowercase isn't hipster, it's just lazy right now.
when's Skittles making Lost Boys 4- Return of the Dubpires?
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It'll be nice when the hipster aesthetic gets replaced.
You would think that it'd be dying off by now (via reverse hipster irony)
I mean, how many trendy kids have to go hipster before the original hipster masses give up on the idea.
Then we could all stop pretending band like Sleigh Bells are any good.
fuck sleigh bells. worst band ever.
oh they're 'loud'?
so what?
so are my landlord's morning shits.
when it's more about image than actual music, the whole thing becomes null and void.
I blame every other musician for not doing anything compelling enough to warrant our attention for the greater part of 2011. The runaway LDR train would be a back-burner issue at best if truly GREAT music was being produced this year.
Instead we've had to settle for oversaturated retreads, the rise of black slutwave, ratty hipster dj's, and the music media's defection/conversion of indie to hip-hop.
Pretty sure everyone is f@#king fed up.
Things have to change soon, out of necessity. I can feel it.
Just to add a semi-interesting side story:
Saw Dam Funk tonight in San Diego. Dam obviously has beef with OFWGKTA.
"We're not gonna swim in any Frank Oceans!"
"We're not livin' in an Odd Future!"
(disagree with the Ocean comment - thought his album was super legit) but I agree with the OF dissension 95%......
meme hype/buzzability can only last so long before actual talent has to back it up...Lana Del Rey, your time is nigh pretty lips)
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