Throughout the entire sordid one-sided beef that was Mark Kozelek’s tongue-in-cheek campaign against the War On Drugs — the one that culminated with “War On Drugs: Suck My Cock” and made our own Koz superfan Michael Nelson very sad — War On Drugs frontman Adam Granduciel remained silent. Not anymore. Speaking to the Swedish music blog Songs For Whoever, Granduciel called the Sun Kil Moon frontman many things including an “idiot,” a “douche,” a “prick,” an “asshole,” a “fucking child,” and a “fucking prick” for good measure. He also says Kozelek issued his public challenge to the War On Drugs — when Kozelek asked them to let him come on stage in San Francisco and perform “War On Drugs: Suck My Cock” with the War On Drugs as his backing band — after he had already offered in private and then reneged. If so, that’s extremely shitty. As much as I wish Granduciel would have remained quiet on this until people stopped asking him about it, it’s kind of cathartic to hear him unload. Here goes:
Speaking of rivalry. Mark Kozelek. What happened there…?
Never heard of him.No? Okay. Then I think that’s my last…
I mean, to be fair to that idiot, what he said in that song… I didn’t really have a problem with any of it until I heard the song. First of all, he never met us, and yet said all these things. He’s such a douche. I asked somebody if I could get his e-mail, because I wasn’t trying to start this stupid Twitter thing, I was just bummed. I went to a mutual friend who explained that he wouldn’t give out his e-mail address. So I just got an e-mail through this friend that said “Mark wants to come to the Fillmore, he will write a song called ‘War On Drugs Suck My Cock,’ you back him up on it and he gets to play ‘Beer Commercial Guitar,’ then you back him up on one of his songs, ‘Dogs,’ from his new album. And then he plays ‘Beer Commercial Guitar’ on one of your songs.”We were on tour and I thought “this is actually a pretty cool idea, I don’t have anything against this guy, this is cool.” So I was really excited and was gonna write him back in a couple of days, ’cause I was busy at the time. Then two days later I get an e-mail back from him, saying “the offer has expired, maybe when I get home from tour I’ll go to Starbucks and buy your record.” I was like “you’re such a fucking prick, dude.” He was such an asshole, I didn’t even say anything. Then he goes to the internet and he “challenges” us to this thing, but I was like “you fucking prick, you already said ‘No’!” He’s such a fucking child. And then the song is just idiotic, he’s just a fucking idiot. I don’t have time for idiots. I’m just pissed that he tried to make it come out like he was challenging us. I had already essentially agreed to it, and then the Starbucks comment… what the fuck, dude. Get over your fucking self.
Well, I guess that settles that. Here’s hoping that’s the last volley in this particular exchange. Lest we forget, the War On Drugs’ Lost In The Dream and Sun Kil Moon’s Benji were both really good. Read our War On Drugs cover story here.
Thank you!
Oh no.
Amen.
Oh, there’s the beef.
Lost in the Dream is still AOTY. Everything is fine.
The best part is that he refused to send emails directly to Granduciel. That speaks volumes.
He doesn’t email, he makes albums
what the hell does that even mean?
Actually Kozelek made a comment about not bothering with internet and social media cause he’s to busy making albums.
Ohh, OK.
At least he’s got plenty of time to troll…
Never question Bruce Dickenson!
sucks this has gotten downvoted at all considering the context….
Sounds like a fair reaction.
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Remind me to never visit northeast Ohio.
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I’m not a fan of either of these guys, but Kozolek definitely came off looking a lot worse, man.
I agree that people are taking Kozelek a little too seriously. But he has to realize he’s coming off as an asshole, and the fact that he doesn’t care, well, that just makes him an asshole then.
Don’t let this nincompoop mislead you. Most of us here in NEOH are good people.
nincompoop!? that’s exactly the type of inflammatory language I hope to avoid in NEOH.
yeah that’s some real hate speech right there…
That “joking shit talk” or whatever language you just wrote is an attack on a bands perception to the public albeit an asinine one. Nonetheless, they are a band that works hard to survive to feed their families and support a career, and this backward ass honkytonk inbreed of shit show attacked that for no apparent reason. If that’s the way you treat people “from your region” then head back to your outhouse, throw another raccoon on the grill and look for your next sister to marry before disappearing from a hunting accident, because it flat out ‘aint right.
look how easy it was for you to get wound up. cleveland will welcome you with open arms.
Sounds like Ohio is governed by trolls.
Do you not realize that you just did the same exact thing you’re railing against? Are you that fucking daft, man?
You are correct. I just couldn’t hold back. A bands credibility was attacked for no reason, though. They were essentially bullied, verbally, and without just cause. Now, Granduciel has to deal with this shithead out of necessity and justify themselves just in case there are morons out there that actually believe in this ignorant mans cause.
Lets assume for a second that you don’t fully understand what the NY and Lynyrd situation was about, OK?
Neil wrote a few songs about the south, mostly overgeneralizing about racism and the negative things going on down there at the time.
Skynyrd called him out by saying the a “southern man don’t need him around anyhow.”
Now that we’ve made that assumption, you understand what Kozelek, completely unprovoked did to WOD right? How would that compare at all? Thats right! It doesn’t!
I think you forgot about the Lynyrd Skynyrd song “Neil Young can lick our balls”.
Is anyone else tired of this? Can we talk about something else instead? Like this for instance:
http://www.avclub.com/article/british-voters-say-pet-shop-boys-had-best-cover-so-211069
“I Will Always Love You” at 10? Brit please.
wow. where’s aretha franklin’s version of “respect”?!
As a different representative of Northeast Ohio, I would like to kindly ask others not to judge our region based on this guy. Most of us are not like that.
“…maybe when I get home from tour I’ll go to Starbucks and buy your record.”
That is some COLD SHIT.
that’s biggie and pac material right there.
Mark Cocklick, excuse me, Kozelek, would suck a big fat cock to get his records sold in Starbucks.
Why couldn’t he just buy it while on tour? There are Starbucks everywhere.
as if Kozeleks record isn’t right there next to WOD’s
I simply cannot believe this thing has flared up again.
Just went I was doubting if there was a God.
Believe it, man. Blogs are going to ride this cock until it has third degree burns.
gross
I have to admit I like being “part of the problem” in this scenario.
Boring! We’ll just let the Best Albums of 2014 lists decide the winner.
Which is obviously KIX.
Marko….you are officially my hero. Almost did a spit take with my coffee.
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that you get downvoted for just about any comment.
I know. It makes me so damn happy. I like to imagine the people that downvote me for virtually any comment looking at the top 10 damn near every week and thinking “Fucking douche. Pandering to the lowest common denominator again”.
Taylor Swift and I do agree on ONE thing…..”Haterz gotta hate”
I think people are just having _ withdrawals, there needs to be a uniter of the hate for there to be balance around here.
are you trying to get terrible songs stuck in my head again?
You wound me, sir. Deeply. I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about. You are breaking my heart. My poor achey breaky heart.
I was just thinking how the only thing this forum is missing is _’s take on it. Then everyone making it all about attacking _. Ah, memories
Bring the noise
Blochead! how low can you go?
Death row what a pretentious blowhard knows
Once again, back is the incredible
The hate animal
Nobody took the high road. Ah well.
there’s no money in the high road.
There’s lots of money in the “high road” Man. You just have to make sure to separate the males from the females so you don’t get seeds; make sure to shake the water off the leaves when it rains so mold doesn’t develop; and grow the strains people want — Pineapple, Sour Diesel, Purple Urkel, AK47, G14, etc. You feelin’ me bra?
No, that still goes to War On Drugs. Adam Granduciel commented at the end of an interview and obviously sounded like he was just venting. Not taking the high road would have been going on a Twitter rant like some teenager.
It still comes off as childish name calling to me. I understand where he’s coming from. I just thought it was cool of him not to say anything before.
I’m glad this happened. I think it’s important to be the better guy, but if it’s true that Kozelek challenged the band publicly after he took back his offer privately, then that deserves to be known.
Sun Kil Moon: E-mail my cock.
the war on drugs could use a guy like you.
Perfect.
Am I the only one that thinks the worst part is that The Koz said War on Drugs could back him up on “Dogs”
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FUCKING DOGS?!?! That’s another veiled insult. “You back me up on my song dissing you, and one of mine about eating pussy. Deal?”
What a chode.
+1 for calling him a chode. Man, I haven’t heard someone call someone else a chode in far too long.
I thought “chode” was spelled “chaud”, but I think I like your spelling better. Thanks!
Further reading required: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chode
I dig a few of Kozelek’s songs, but the 7:10 of TWOD’s “An Ocean In Between Two Waves” is better than anything he has ever done; his long drawn out bullshit feud makes him looks like a petty, silly little man indeed.
Kozelek is desperately grasping for his 5 seconds of internet fame and he doesn’t care if it comes to him in the form of internet infamy. Too many people are under the impression that acting like an ugly troll thrusts you immediately into the spotlight because of music blogs like this one that constantly report on these sorts of things.
A beer commercial set to a War on Drugs track would be pretty surreal. I’m just picturing some high-fives at a Broncos game, a scene or two of friends sharing knee-slapping laughter whilst playing billiards, and a slew of gratuitous cleavage shots soundtracked by “Eyes to the Wind” or something. It’s oddly moving stuff, at least as I’ve imagined it.
“Baby Missiles” while the Coors Light silver bullet train comes roaring through. Were I an ad exec, I’d greenlight that shit.
Or a beer commercial set to Sun Kil Moon.
Benji’s an album that’s pretty preoccupied with death, so I’m assuming an ad for hard liquor would make more sense.
A dude’s drinking alone at his desk, “I Love My Dad” playing on iTunes on his laptop. His dad was a hard man who didn’t love anyone, but dude in said ad is gonna love his dad back, even if that’s the last thing he does. And it’s the last thing he does. He refills his glass 1/4 with tranquilizers, then slowly tips in the bottle of Hennessy — a smooth amber stream of cognac pushes the pills to the top, before they sink back to the bottom.
Dude takes a loooong steady drank as he goes out — fulfilled — with a satisfied grin. Finally he loves his dad. And Hennessy on the rocks.
Mark is indeed an asshole , but its still funny.