After Owen Pallett’s deconstruction of Katy Perry, Daft Punk, and Lady Gaga, there seems to be a new trend in which everyone wants to explain in tedious detail why pop music is so enticing in some twisted way of justifying our enjoyment of it. This time, self-described “musical genius” and Random Access Memories collaborator Chilly Gonzales breaks down “Get Lucky” and Drake’s “Hold On, We’re Going Home,” and explains how “a truly clever pop musician can do so much with so little” in videos for German radio station 1Live. Watch Chilly talk about how Daft Punk uses ostinato in their harmonies, why syncopation is everywhere, and just what exactly the ’80s sounds like below.