Ben Gibbard is really into running, so much so that he agreed to be interviewed for an hour about it. Gibbard and Ethan Newberry (BKA “The Ginger Runner”) discuss everything from how Gibbard got his start as a running enthusiast in an effort to kick his unhealthy young adult lifestyle to his preferred pair of sneakers. Around the 51:50 mark, Gibbard briefly addresses Death Cab For Cutie’s forthcoming album, which is due out in the spring of 2015. “I’m really proud of this album,” he says. “I think it’s the best one we’ve made in awhile.” Otherwise it’s entirely about running. Watch below.

For more on Death Cab’s new album — their last one with Chris Walla — check out our recent interview with the band.