The National’s Matt Berninger and Chvrches’ Lauren Mayberry sat down to chat in a segment for Live Nation TV. They start off by talking about when Mayberry joined the National on stage a few months back to perform Trouble Will Find Me track “I Need My Girl” at Treasure Island Music Festival, and go on to discuss how bad they both are at playing the guitar, how to maintain a good stage presence, and whether or not they feel famous. Berninger also recounts a harrowing SXSW experience when his band was first starting out. Watch below.