Up until now, the Taylor Swift/Katy Perry beef has been all insinuation, the two pop stars firing off shots at each other without mentioning each other’s names or even acknowledging that there is a beef. But last night, Perry jumped into James Corden’s SUV to do a Carpool Karaoke segment during Corden’s latest prime-time special. And for the first time, Perry acknowledged that there is a beef and that she’s in no hurry to end it.

Here’s how Perry explained the genesis of the beef:

There’s a situation, and honestly, like, she started it, and it’s time for her to finish it…

It’s about backing dancers! It’s so crazy! There’s like three backing dancers that went on tour with her tour, right? And they asked me, before they went on tour, if they could go. And I was like, “Yeah, of course! I’m not on a record cycle, and she’s great, and you get to work, and all that. But I will be on a record cycle, probably, in about a year. So be sure to put a 30-day contingency in your contract so you get out if you want to join me when I say I’m going back on.”

So that year came up, and I texted all of them because I’m very close with them. I said, “Look, just FYI, I’m about to start. I want to put the word out there.” And they said, “OK, we’re going to go talk to management about it.” And they did, and they got fired. And I tried to talk to her about it, and she wouldn’t speak to me…

I do the right thing anytime it seems like a fumble. It was a full shutdown, and then she writes a song about me. And I’m like, “OK, cool, cool, cool. That’s how you want to deal with it? Karma!” But! But but but! What I want to say is that I’m ready for that BS to be done. Now, there is the law of cause and effect. You do something, and there’s going to be a reaction. And trust me daddy, there’s going to be a reaction.

And when Corden asked Perry about ending the beef, here’s what she said: “I think, personally, that women together — not divided, and none of this petty shit — women together will heal the world.” Here’s the video, via Uproxx:

It’s worth noting that Perry just released the Nicki Minaj collab “Swish Swish,” which sure seems like her attempt to make an “Ether” to “Bad Blood“‘s “Takeover.”