I think the reasons you like Swift, are probably the same reasons that she seems to connect with so many people. She is much more relatable and likeable than just about every other pop star. My problem with her is that I just don’t care about any of those things. I only care about what the songs sound like. My problem with this article, and Toms defense of her in general is that he keeps metioning craft, as if she is just on another level of songwriting talent than everyone else in the Popsphere. And as you and I both agreed on. That is just not the case. She clearly isn’t writing songs on the level of Teenage Dream. And when Tom or anyone else acts like she is. It just feels dishonest. You can like her more than Perry, and clearly most people do, especially music writers, and thats fine, I think I like her more that Perry also. Katy Perry seems like a jerk, but that has nothing do with what their actual songs sound like. If you wanna say she seems to have a more original voice. I’m okay with that. But to just say its all about craft is just nonsense. Because there are clearly people crafting better pure pop songs than she is. Even among the sound that you say she’s going for, there’s nothing on this album that even gets close to Mother We Share. And thats fine. I just wish that more people would acknowledge those facts. If this article had started off by saying Taylor Swift will never write a song like Teenage Dream, or even the Mother We Share, I would have no problem with it. But Tom basically says, these are the best songs crafted by any pop star in recent memory. And thats just crazy.
I’m going to take a different stance against Swift than most of the people on here seem to be taking. I’m actually a fan a pop music. In fact Katy Perry’s Birthday and Chris Browns New Flame are two of my favorite songs of the year. I also think that Taylor definitely is involved quite a bit in the making of her songs, especially in the lyrics and the melodies. And this is why I think Taylor makes probably the worst pop music of any of her peers. She simply doesn’t have a gift for melody. Songs like Teenage Dream, Or Cyrus’s We Don’t Stop, or Beyonces Love on Top are amazing pop songs that sound like they were labored over by a team of pop music genius’ until they came out with a perfect pop song. Taylor doesn’t have anything in her catalog, that even gets close to those songs. She’s a really bad songwriter. Her lyrics are always bad, like a lot of pop music lyrics are, but her melodies are weak too, and thats what makes all her songs with the exception of Our Song underwhelming. I get why people like Taylor Swift, but it has nothing to do with her craft. She’s actually kind of bad at her craft. When I hear her songs it sounds like Max Martin, and those guys went in there and tried to do anything they could do to save these really bad melodies. When I hear Teenage Dream, or Britney Spears 3, I hear Pop songwriting at its finest. I listened to those voice message songs and their horrible. She writes melodies like someone who doesn’t listen to a lot of music. She’s not even close to the best pop songwriter of this generation. I would argue that she’s one of the worst. The people who wrote the Miley Cyrus album, the Sky Ferrera album, the Katy Perry album, and the Ariana Grande album, are not just better at crafting pop tunes than she is, they’re hundreds of miles above her. I wish she would let Max Martin and shelback write her songs. Then maybe they would sound like Teenage Dream and I would like them.
I’m a straight black male from the midwest, who now lives in Williamsburg. I’ve been living here for 8 years now. I am completely on team Koz. Meredith is very similar to a lot of the girls who live here. Or used to. the neighborhood has changed quite a bit now. Ugly fat girls lke her are not as seen as frequently as they used to be, and all the pussy dokry guys arent as prevelent as they used to be either. And I love it. Its not as cool as it used to be around here, but at least everyone isnt a self righteous vegan sissy. Koz is right. for a while it was all clones here. I had a few friends visit form the midwest, and we took them to Market Hotel, Dead Herring, Death By Audo, and Below The Auto Parts Store. and my buddy summed up the music scene here perfectly. “Its as if they took the ugliest girls and the dorkiest guys in every highschool in America and put them in one place.” I love it here, but this is pretty accurate. Growing up in the midwest I never realized that everyone who likes good bands is a vegan uptight pussy. Guided By Voices are just like Koz. Pavement dudes are just like Koz. This we are the world, we were all picked on, so anyone who isn’t dork is an asshole thing is somewhat new. Koz calls it out and I love it. Also. Sun Kil Moon is bigger than ever, the idea that he is somewaht jealous of WOD is insane. He’s the biggest indie star this year by far. And Benji is Awesome. i never liked RHP, but his new shit, is fantastic. It reminds me of the dudes I grew up with. I love that he’s acting like an asshole. The first thing i learned when I moved here was that I would never want to hang out with most of the musicians I love. They;re all mostly sissys. But I don’t care if The Pains Of Being Pure Heart are all a bunch of vegan pussies, i like their jams. Just listen to the music, and mellow the fuck out. He didn’t kill anyone. He’s just having a good time with his time in the limelight. and this is coming frome someone who’s favorite song of the year is Perfect Pussy’s Inherent Fits. And I hate fat ugly girls like her. My second favorite song of the year is Clarissa. And third is Drakes Trophies.
Also Blochead you don’t know shit about music. music nerds hate Arcade Fire. i once was at Below the Auto Parts Store to see No Age and Ponytail, and i heard a conversaton with a bunch of people talking about how much better Britney Spears was than Arcade Fire. But I agree with you about this. Koz is awesome!!!!
I loved Children of Desire, And Become What You Are was one of my favorite songs of 2012. But I kind of hate this. Didn’t like the singles at all, and was hoping the album would have some better jams, but not really. These dudes have no hooks. That new Literature album is a much much better 80′s homage record this thing. Too bad, I really thought this record was going to be epic.
I actually remember the very first Quit Your Day Job. I believe it was Blood on The Wall??
He’s not trolling us. He really just has god awful taste in music. Take a look at his best songs of 2008 list he did when he was at Pitchfork below:
>> Tom Breihan
1. Young Jeezy [ft. Kanye West]: Put On
2. Hold Steady: Lord, I’m Discouraged
3. Lil Wayne: You Ain’t Got Nuthin
4. Jordin Sparks [ft. Chris Brown]: No Air
5. Gary Allan: Watching Airplanes
6. B.O.B.: Generation Lost
7. Mary J. Blige: Just Fine (Treat Em Right Remix)
8. Cut Copy: Hearts on Fire
9. Pink: So What
10. Big Boi [ft. Raekwon and Andre 3000]: Royal Flush
11. Trace Adkins: You’re Gonna Miss This
12. Gaslight Anthem: That ’59 Sound
13. Vampire Weekend: A-Punk
14. Sugarland: Already Gone
15. Lil Wayne: A Milli
16. Hotstylz: Lookin’ Boy
17. B.O.B.: Fuck You
18. T.I.: No Matter What
19. Taylor Swift: Love Story
20. Hercules & Love Affair: Blind
21. Usher [ft. Young Jeezy]: Love In This Club
22. Raconteurs: Old Enough
23. Kanye West: Love Lockdown
24. Santogold: Lights Out
25. Bun B: Damn I’m Cold
I was really excited when you came on to Stereogum, mostly because you wrote at Tiny Mix Tapes and loved Saint Pepsi, and I mosly aways agree with you. But Coldplay is awful. This isnt some “God” given talent. Song writing I mean. Chris Martin is laying up with an actress who may be th eworst human being on earth. Going to award shows. Dressing like a scumbag. Basically just being a huge asshole. Apposed to someone like lke Ariel Pink or Noah Lennox who are probably listeing to records all day, and being awesome. Between this post and the rest of your obnoxious week in pop post you have let me know you nothing about music or records, And that you’re an awful person. You’re a know nothing asshole and I’m going to fuck your mother if I ever meet her.
Is anyone going to mention that the last two minutes of this song are a cover of Purple Rain??? Jesus Christ Breihan get on your shit!! I thought you were the R&B/Rap Guy?????
GET A GRIP!!!!!!
Considering that her parents are both actors, and actors are quite possibly the most awful people on the planet, she she should actually be commended for not becoming a model, or an actor or herself. But instead making pretty rad music. I actually liked her more when I found that out, and I absolutely hate all actors. The fact that two of them could make a pretty cool kid is astonishing to me.
I liked the first Girls record, but Father Son Holy ghost and Lysandre were just lazy, tuneless, terrible records. I was telling everyone who would listen that this guy couldn’t write a good melody to save his life, and Lysandre proved it. This song is absolute garbage as well. What JR Chet White has done after Girls has been way better. This dude is terrible and always has been. And all his melodies sound the same, except the the beach boys one he borrowed for Honey Bunny, which was great for obvious reasons.
Even his choice of covers are just god awful.