BTW, not coming down on you guys. You know I got tons of love for what you do, Michael and you’re right that that there are a couple more melodic albums on here than I implied (although I wouldn’t put Woe of VHOL in that category), but I guess I’m just a sucker for some kinds of metal that maybe don’t get a lot of love in this day in age (Helloween and Stratovarius also had killer albums in 2013).
I would like this to happen very much. The run from Nursery Cryme through to A Trick Of The Tail is high end music, prog rock or otherwise.
Great list, although you guys obviously don’t like clean vocals (even the SubRosa write-up is a touch backhanded). Guys, singing is OK, it doesn’t ALL have to be black, death, thrash or whatever else. There is room for bands like ASG and Atlantean Kodex too.
Itching to check out that Satan album.
It’s bizarre how much this post is getting downvoted. It’s like “Hey guys, here are some pretty sweet albums” and everyone is like “No way. Fuck you. YEEZUS!!”
It’s OK to like The Darkness!
If you can’t get into vocals rougher than Hetfield, then it is what it is. And what it is is you missing out on a ton of great music.
The Quietus always has kick ass lists.
Hm, it’s funny, I really loved Heaven in a way that I didn’t with their previous work.
Which brings up another point, the sequencing on this album is bizarre. I shouldn’t take a genius to realize that this album needs to start with “PSA” and end with “Encore.” Listening to the Black Album as is is like hearing a really good album of shuffle. Yeah, the songs are there, but the flow is way off.
As a big defender of American Gangster, even I have to admit that “Hello Brooklyn 2.0″ is worthy of skipping, but “Roc Boys,” “Ignorant Shit,” “Success” and “No Hook” are some next level Jay-Z cuts.
I merely *like* The Black Album, but it does have some stellar moments. It’s just that the whiffs stand out for me too. I’d argue that Watch The Throne and American Gangster are late-era Jay-Z albums that deserve all the praise the get. AG, in particular, has an absolutely blistering back half. I feel like when that album came out everyone was all “this is amazing” and then a month later they were all “ehh, whatever.” Guys, that album’s back half is still one of the hottest hip-hop albums I’ve ever heard.
I know duh…but you often see a lot of critical consensus. This one seems to be one of the more varied responses for a major album.
Dang, I was hoping this was a revamped Mai Shi.
You are…incredibly gracious.
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So the Stereogum staff seem to be united in their hatred. Chris at Spin is bullish and enthusiastic. The AV Club seems generally lukewarm but positive and Steven Hyden (maybe the best music writer going now) is content with the album. I like that there’s such a big range in opinion on this album. That there have been so many different responses has to count for something.
Contrasting Tom and Chris’ reviews is a lot of fun. I think they generally agree on everything up until the conclusion. The album sounds like a clusterfuck, your mileage may vary on how much you enjoy said clusterfuck.
Dang, y’all hate dads.
I kind of agree with this, although, like you, I don’t care about Eminem one way or another. I feel like a whole lot of really prominent critics just completely gloss over Kanye’s very real and very problematic shortcomings (lyrical, rapping ability) in order to serve the larger narrative of his career arc. Em is obviously way less important and lyrically he might be every bit the disaster that Kanye is, but his skill is really elite and there’s no value given to that. I doubt I get around to listening to this, but I figure that Tom, as an avid action movie fan, would have the ability to appreciate Eminem’s ability to just skip the plot and blow shit up. This album sounds like the hip-hop version of The Raid: Redemption – willfully, gleefully brainless and empty, but the action and the carnage are of the highest order. Eminem takes us straight to the fireworks factory while I feel like Kanye’s still trying to work the GPS.
My metaphors are all over the place here. Feel free to downvote.
Bringing up “dad jokes” is the new critic cliche of choice. I can’t wait til it dies.
This is a fun interview. Also, I like Uncanney Valley. The corny lyrics don’t bother me. No song is a dud for me and a few of them are flat out great. Whatever, I don’t care. Pitchfork doesn’t dictate my taste (hence me liking Free Energy).
So yeah, I’ll echo the sentiment that Twin Cinema is under-represented. It’s their best album and it contains a handful of MAJOR songs. That said, I’m quite pleased that “The Body Says No” snuck onto this list. I’ve always held this one in high esteem even when everyone else was creaming their jeans of “Letter From An Occupant.” The drop out on the chorus is quite possibly the best hook Newman ever came up with.
Downvoted? OK, continue to speak for all of us then.
“Their new album Uncanney Valley may not be the return to form that many of us were hoping for”
Speak for your own goddamn self.
I also feel using the term “dad rock” does nothing but weaken an argument.