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That is a dumb statement much like the one you left under my earlier comment. I was attempting to explain to you clueless people on here who CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING about the Genre of rap or where it came from in the black community, why all the bragging is culturally significant but i guess you someone who says something as ridiculous as one band being better than an entire genre (that i am SURE they know nothing about) doesnt under stand things like that. OH and BTW i have listened to all the Arcade Fire albums and guess what THEY OWE A HUGE DEBT TO SPRINGSTEEN!! I didn’t make that up. Every critic has also mentioned this! If you cant here it in the music than clearly you have no ear and it explains why you are so ignorant about music in general. They even played with Springsteen recently!!
Once again if you don’t Fucking know what you are talking about shut the hell up!
This is Ridiculous you know what i never see… I never see people who are really into hip hop go check out the new rock songs and complain about how its all about the same sad shit (even though it is)! If you have a problem with rap Don’t Fucking listen to it and let us that like it enjoy! Wouldn’t you be pissed of if a bunch of people who almost exclusively listened to rap went to the message boards to complain about the new Radiohead or Arcade Fire album and lamented the fact that the weren’t The beatles or the stones?! Cause that is what this comment section has become and its dumb.
Not only are you wrong but there are plenty of people in Sam and Smokeys time that thought that They were garbage and were not making real music also. Do you know the village voice Pazz and Jop poll? Its a a yearly ranking of albums based on ALL the collective reviews from music publications. Kanye West is the ONLY MUSICIAN EVER to top it 3 time not to mention that he did it all in 6 years and got the 3rd by the biggest margin EVER and the poll has been happening since the 70s. You want songs about heartbreak from a hip hop artist? Heres and idea go pick up “808′s and Heartbreak”
You people are fools! I am SOOOOOOO sick of hearing about how “Original” Arcade Fire and RadioHeads musics. Arcade fire writes bad Bruce Springsteen songs and Radiohead hasn’t made anything interesting in 11 years. Sad but true! I think the thing you all fail to realize about hip hop is its not about what you are saying all the time its about how you say it! if you know ANYTHING about rap you would know that it comes from a form of speech called “the dozens”.
The Dozens is a game that has its origins in African American slavery.. This element of the African American oral tradition in which two competitors, usually males, go head-to-head in a competition of often good-natured insults. They take turns “cracking,” “snapping,” “ribbing” or insulting on—one another, their adversary’s mother or other family member until one of them has no comeback. This is called playing the dozens or doin’ the dozens, and sometimes dirty dozens. The dozens is a contest of personal power—of wit, self-control, verbal ability, mental agility and mental toughness. Each putdown, each “snap”, ups the ante. Defeat can be humiliating, but a skilled contender, win or lose, may gain respect. The dozens is one of the contributing elements in the development of hip hop, especially the practice of battling.
I get it custom
You a customer
You aint accustomed to going through customs
You aint been nowhere huh?
Is a prime example of this very old black tradition! So if you don’t get it and keep complaining about it go listen to some sad ass bands sing songs about being upset and white and waking up and sucking on lemons or see where your goin with lightnig bolts a glowin…
I for one would have no problem with you making that song cause its your Fucking right. I would maybe just not listen to it because the lyrics are rather clunky and that would be my right! You people on here sound like those crazy Christians that get all in an uproar over things like “Piss Christ” and oh yeah Gay people. When you start to sound like them in questions of art i think there is a problem
The fact that you think there is such a thing as indisputably offensive art is the problem especially when you go around parading opinions as facts. People are not Monolithic. My mother finds “Silence of the Lambs” to be “indisputably offensive” because of things like them SHOWING skin suits made of women (something that tyler the creator only talks about on the album) yet it won the oscar for best picture. My real problem with this whole issue is that people have to realize that part of living in a truly free society means that in order for you to be allowed to be you, you have to allow everyone else to be who they are no matter how abhorrent you find them as long as they are not hurting anyone. There are people who find black gay men like myself indisputably offensive and they are allowed to think that!
LOL. Thanks if of course you were talking to me. It just pisses me off when people try to censor other peoples art in any way!
Goblin is art in the same way that Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds’ Murder Ballads or Brett Easton Ellis’s Less Than Zero are and to deny it such a status, could reasonably be seen as racism. -The Quietus
As a black gay man i Fucking LOVE this album!!! I dont find it offensive at all because they are fucking WORDS. My grandfather once told me that someone calling you a nigger doesn’t make them a racist, but someone thinking or treating you like you are a nigger does make them a racist. Words are words. Im glad someone brought up silence of the lambs and Keroauc. I cant believe that in 2011 we are having the same argument about art that people had in 1785 about the Marquis de Sade. Im not a certaintly not a conservative but i am also no longer a liberal because of bullshit like Tegan and Sara who want to be able to be whoever they want and make the art that they want but want to make others stop making art they dont agree with. Such a double standard!!