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You had to have known this would get downvotes though.
Fuck everyone who downvoted this.
The Decline is their best and I will fight anyone who disagrees.
Punk in Drublic definitely deserves an anniversary.
please remember not to extrapolate too much from the stolen comment thing. ‘a miss_merboy lied’ does not = ‘merboys are liars’
“Conor was dropped by a label because Stereogum was irresponsible.”
Oh shit. Really? No way. Oh man. FUCK STEREOGUM.
Stereogum isn’t the reason her allegations were taken seriously. If Stereogum was a 24-hour news network on cable that devoted a bunch of segments to “Conor Oberst: The Rapist Story”, you would have a point. Yeah, they perpetuated the speculation that perhaps there might be truth to Joanie Faircloth’s story by considering it newsworthy, but as I look back at their articles, I find it hard to see any motive behind their coverage other than, “Yo, this is happening in the news; we should write a little bit about it.” Perhaps you’re right in thinking they’re at fault for considering it newsworthy, but only hindsight bias would inform that opinion.
I 92.78% agree with you.
Even though I’ve been complaining about Stereogum jumping the shark lately, they didn’t pick up this story until it had already gained traction elsewhere, and from that point they were reporting on a story that was already a story on the rest of the internet for the sole reason that it was relevant to “indie news.” I really don’t blame them for following it. I was following it, and Stereogum was one of my sources.
I agree that one internet comment shouldn’t have blown up to the proportion that this has, but I am also not going to ever dismiss someone claiming she was raped as someone who is merely seeking attention, even though Joanie Faircloth clearly made these allegations because she was seeking attention. Our attitudes towards rape and sexual abuse have historically been so incredulous and dismissive that I almost see it as a good sign we took this one somewhat seriously.
I guess I 92.78% agree with you because rumors, especially internet rumors, should never qualify as “news”. However, the topic of rape carries so much weight to it, historically speaking, that I find myself not assigning a whole lot of blame on the media for holding an attitude that takes it seriously.
Mr. Scott Lapatine, I berated you on here a couple weeks ago, but let the record show I’m defending you now.
And Joanna Newsom raped me in 2005, you guys.
I really could have forgiven her for the initial attention-seeking post on XOJane, but the fact that she kept going with it creating a tumblr with more lies, and even briefly tried to be a poster child for rape victims makes her a super terrible person. I’m not even saying this because I happen to be a Conor fan, but because of the damage she is doing to actual rape victims/survivors who may be reluctant to tell their stories because of a culture that is already too incredulous. It’s unfortunate that this is a high-profile story, because it rarely happens, and now dudes who don’t know anything about sexual violence are going to use it as a frame of reference the next time they hear rape allegations because they are fucking idiots. And take it from me, I’ve been to many shows and most of Conor Oberst’s fans are fucking idiots.
What a relief. If anyone needs me, I’ll be in my room looping “Lover I Don’t Have to Love,” my least favorite Bright Eyes song, because now I can say to myself with confidence that it isn’t rapey.