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John Mordecai
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have The Chameleons sued DIIV yet?
Was able to hear the whole thing …. It’s very much synth-driven, pretty dark, and awesome.
yeah, cuz no one’s allowed to experiment and give something a try.
Wait, Tom is SURPRISED that Grimes had the number 1 song? Um… that’s actually no surprise at all considering the degree to which P4k kisses her ass. Even the reviews of the songs hype them up to be so much more than they really are.
“Genesis” making more sense in the context of its video? The video was a piece of shit – a low-budget hip-hop video that barely had any point other than “Look how cool we all look.”
I’m fairly certain they will give her album of the year honors. I think the collective reaction will be “of course.”
DIIV sound like every other post-punk-shoegaze revivalist band that’s come out in the past few years. every song sounds exactly the same. boring. and they look goofy.
No pictures of the big orb? Figured that thing’d be hard to miss. Looks pretty cool.
and yes, this tour he had the Flaming Lips as a back-up band. that was pretty amazing. they appeared on Conan together too, and Wayne sat on the floor wrapped in a blanket with Ted Danson, who played the triangle.
I got this album when I was 21, and had just broken up with my girlfriend of 6 years a couple days before (she went off with a 17-year-old douche bag). Needless to say, I listened to this album a lot, and it was misery. But oh, the beautiful misery. It’s been a bit hard to listen to ever since.
Can’t believe it’s been 10 years; amazing how when you get older, that much time is still a while, but it’s really not too far behind you. Either that or I just haven’t grown up much.
i guess to be fair, he never said he hated Radiohead. that quote was taken drastically out of context by pretty much every site, and it’s clarified in that same interview, though no one posted that part. not sensational enough i guess.
This is the one I’ve always waited for… for better and for worse, the band that has pretty much been the cornerstone for all this dumb shoegaze resurgence of the past few years. But still the best. I prefer them to MBV, myself.
And that aside, they never really made any money or got any credit while they were together; now’s the perfect time cuz their influence has never been bigger. In short, they will cash out BIG TIME. and good for them, they deserve it.
however, yes, still plenty of ego involved here. totally different story. in this case i’m more concerned with clearing up misinformation…
OK, here’s Billy’s clarification to this. Again, if anyone actually read what he said a little more carefully they’d know this was the point he was making all along anyway, but maybe that’s expecting too much of people.
Bravo to Stereogum and even Pitchfork for making up this shit about a beef.
“It’s not Radiohead that’s pompous; in fact, I think Radiohead is a great band. It’s the pomposity that surrounds Radiohead in a culture that needs to celebrate them to reaffirm their own value system. Like, “Isn’t it cool that Thom Yorke just rolls out of bed, puts on his hat, and doesn’t care?” That’s people reflecting their own values back to themselves. That’s the pomposity. That’s what I said in that quote.
A band like Radiohead is incredibly important; it should be that way. They’re a great band; they should have their audience; they should headline the festivals. The reviewers should write the four pages of reviews while they comb through Thom’s lyrics. They’re deserved of that. It’s the culture around that, that same culture that turns around and says my new release is worthy of a one-paragraph thing that dismisses me and says he hasn’t done anything good since ’93. Am I receiving the same level of critical review? No. They need to put people like me in that box to make their other box look brighter. That’s my point. It’s football players; it’s jocks and stoners and nerds all over again. And now the nerds are running the fucking show?”
Case closed.
Yeah, I hate to chime in again, but it bears repeating: Stereogum’s editors royally misinterpreted this quote and have presented it as a beef. He isn’t saying any of the damn things you’re accusing him of, and now everyone is reading it through your filter and taking it the wrong way. You wonder why some people start to hate music writers…
In the meantime, learn to read.
Didn’t see that one coming!
he’s not attacking Radiohead. he used them as an example to make a point. right in the second paragraph he said he wasn’t bashing them or Jonny Greenwood for their contributions. granted, it was a bit of a rambling point that could be easily misunderstood… he doesn’t even call Radiohead pompous, he’s talking of the idea of valuing one thing over the other, etc.
I feel like i’m the only one who got this… i had to read it twice, but it seems to me that’s the point he’s making.
Stereogum completely made this “beef” up. There is no beef here. Right there in the second fucking paragraph, read it. He doesn’t “have words” for Jonny Greenwood, nor is he calling Radiohead out for their “pomposity.” He used Jonny Greenwood as an example (he’s been quoted as giving Radiohead high praise) to make a point; a point (maybe a vague one) that should be clear to anyone with basic reading comprehension.
So for cryin’ out loud; I wish people would read a little more closely before announcing there’s a beef. And apparently most of the people who read this quote went along with it, too. He’s not bashing Greenwood, and he’s not bashing Radiohead, and he’s not comparing Blackmore to Greenwood. Fuckin’ READ, people!
And for the record, I’ve loved SP since 1993, but I’ll be first to admit Corgan’s creative well is long-since dried up.
Why is the press even calling this a U.S. “Tour”?? These are just a couple US dates. That’s all. Now there’s an internet firestorm over “why no east coast dates,” etc. It’s My Bloody Valentine, and I’m not at all surprised they’re only doing a few shows. But seriously, a “tour?” Jesus.