haha, yeah that’ll pretty much beat anything for “most awkward”…
During a brotherly quarrel in the summer of ’95, my younger brother ratted out to my mom that me and my other brother (I’m a triplet) had the Downward Spiral and that there was a song called Heresy with the lyrics “God is dead and no one cares.”
We tried to explain that we were of mind enough to know what he was talking about, but my very religious mom insisted that she see the album and its lyrics. And so we sat there while MY MOM READ THE LYRICS OF THE ENTIRE ALBUM BACK TO US.
It was awkward.
She insisted we destroy it, and we were barred from buying albums cuz she thought we were only gonna be listening to sketchy, anti-God stuff. We never destroyed it, but kept it hidden in a drawer with all our other NIN stuff, and eventually the same went for Marilyn Manson. We’d have friends go to record stores and buy us the singles and imports, and typically we’d have to listen in secrecy.
Man, the teenage years.
Still one of my all-time favorites ever. It holds up quite well after all these years. Doesn’t sound dated at all, doesn’t even sound like anything else. The title track used to scare me… at the time, to my 14-year-old senses, this was disturbing music; not like the dog-and-pony show of Manson and whatnot, but this felt like there was something really dirty hiding behind the corners. Still so goddamn good.
Trent really had a know-how for putting industrial with the idea of songs… and there’s so much dynamic range here; it’s not just one pummel after the other… the songs keep changing, moving. The fucking guitar solo breakdown in Ruiner, for example! The last thing you’d see coming would come.
Masterpiece. End of story.
And anyone else feel that, despite it being electronic, all the sounds on it somehow sounded “organic” or of-the-earth… like you were listening to sounds generated by dirt and worms, not computers?
I realize that young-ish crowd is a TV audience, but I’m betting those were a few of the lucky U2 contingent of the audience.
Wow, at least Bono can still belt it out; well done. “Invisible” is growing on me a bit, I must say.
Also, to U2′s credit, for a band as old as they are, they seem to have a young-ish crowd not afraid to jump around for them.
And Jesus Christ that is a small roof… I’m amazed NBC was even OK with cramming all those people up there.
When the guitars and rhythm came in, for a second it sounded like they were going back to some krautrock styles… then it very quickly went south. Just sort of.. average.
Funny how Bono draws lyrics from his youth and “punk rock,” yet it doesn’t keep the band from making lame music anyway.
I’ve heard this about Lindsey Buckingham “getting LIndsey Buckinghamed.” Was he snubbed once before?
Well… they first teamed up about 9 years ago. Nothing new, really.
I figured this would not have gone over well with Trent!
UGH. Yeah, Grammy’s. Pump up the big show-closing epic, and then cut it off so we don’t even get to see it end. Smooth move.
where is nine inch nails? dyin’ here!
Finally something of artistic merit on the Grammy’s and not just another classic rock dinosaur tribute or something. This happens once in a blue moon. These guys aren’t exactly “new,” but at least it’s not dinosaur rock.
And fuck, what a group… this could actually have some balls too. Makes me even more amazed the Grammy’s are closing with this. Give ‘em hell, Trent.
As far as I’m concerned Slowdive tapped into something way better than My Bloody Valentine. A dreamier side of the coin. But it’s still so different it’s hard to compare, really. Most of the crummy neo-shoegaze bands that exist today sound more like they’re watering down Slowdive than MBV anyway.
I may get crucified for this, but by and large I think a lot of MBV songs are pretty boring. The sounds are amazing and they’re good in their own context, but like, not much really happens. Slowdive (if i can play the comparison game), wrote much better songs.
Either way, if there was one band I wanted to get back together – even just for the damn money – it’d be Slowdive. They never got their due when they were around, so as far as I’m concerned, a celebratory payday for them is long overdue.
he gave an honest answer, indeed.
in case anyone didn’t read the Washington Post article in question, the guy who wrote was more of a douche, by far.
as someone else mentioned, called the band pretentious for singing in french, when they’ve done that since their first album and Regine is a native french speaker. a lot of it really was bone-headed.
also, leading up to Reflektor, i got annoyed with them, and pretty figured “well, that’s it. they suck.” but i heard the album, already expecting it to suck, and was surprised by how much i liked it. one of the best of 2013.
never underestimate the effect a writer with a chip on his shoulder can (unfairly) have.
also, ALWAYS question the unwarranted arbitrary backlash of a once-beloved band.
yeah, but there are a ton of “indie rockers” that really are massive dorks and it’s getting boring and too polite anyway. Arcade Fire, by comparison, are not boring (but you know, maybe a little dorky). I’m glad he responded that way.
i think there need to be more good rock stars out there that will make a big sound and say big nasty things. and clearly he knew the guy who wrote it, so there was a little bit of a personal dig in there too.
It’s not like he responds to every negative review or he called up Rolling Stone to vent about a review. A journalist asked him a question, and he answered it with a tasty soundbite.
let’s remember how interviews work though: sometimes someone asks you a question, and you answer it. Doesn’t mean any more than that.
I doubt he’ll live to see a full year in prison. We all know he’ll get eaten alive in there.
The fact that there wasn’t even an admission of, “I know I’m sick and sorry for what I’ve done.” He doesn’t even give a fuck. Therefore no one else will.
I also can’t imagine how much of a mind-fuck this must be on his family, former bandmates and friends…. well, whichever friends weren’t also complete creeps.
though Billy did have a male bassist in the new SP very briefly. dude from the Electric Prunes… but then he died. from what i remember, Zwan had wayy more problems than a Paz+Pajo hook-up…
Kim isn’t hot as fuck. Not lying.
That’s in the world according me. Not lying.
But I was staring at her (boobs) in the Bound 2 video. Not lying.
this is a strange list; not at all expected, and i guess i’d be hard-pressed to call it “definitive,” whatever that would mean anyway.
Is it just me, or did it seem like the writer basically didn’t like most of every album he reviewed, except maybe the top 3?
I mean, even seeming “standards” were written off. A very strange way of ranking albums one supposedly likes by putting down half of each’s tracks.
Southpaw I always felt was a great album and way under-appreciated, but I can’t see how it’s a #1. But to each his own.
Well, at least “Smashing Pumpkins” has released about 3 albums worth of new music since it’s been a thing again … the Pixies have been doing the reunion tour thing for 10 years and have given us an EP’s worth of shitty songs just a few months ago.
It’s to the point where I don’t even give a damn about what the Pixies do anymore. Like, “Oh, I can go see them play their greatest hits AGAIN!?” What the hell.
*ahem* not that Corgan’s output in the past few years has been solid gold, but at least a few gems in there.
righto. a stunning example of how a simple choice of words to say the same thing could make a huge difference, at least in people’s perception.
though in my opinion, there really aren’t enough flavors of vegan ice cream to keep one happy, especially compared to dairy ice cream! :-p
That certainly is a good point.
Another example. I don’t smoke. But sometimes around friends I might take a cigarette. We’re talking once in a blue moon. Does that make me “a smoker”? Not by a long shot.
In the end we’re just talking about labels. If she had said “I follow a vegan diet but sometimes I eat this,” maybe it wouldn’t have ruffled vegan feathers as much as her identifying as a capital V Vegan.
I don’t get why it’s always such a big deal to people.
If she occasionally has some ice cream (and I don’t think occasionally eating ice cream counts as “adding ice cream to your diet as much as a hurricane in New England doesn’t make our climate ‘tropical’), or once in a while has a meat product with family or something (I relate to that), it doesn’t mean she no longer follows a vegan diet. Things aren’t actually black and white.
So she’s 98% vegan and not 100%. If I put a tablespoon of cream and sugar in my coffee, it’s still coffee. I’m not going to tell people, “Actually it’s not really coffee, but it’s coffee with some cream and sugar in it.”
I of course know why vegans would have a problem with it, but I don’t think any reasonable person should find this anything other than reasonable.
Being vegan means doing your best to not contribute to animal cruelty and such to the best of your ability though there little we can do that isn’t completely disconnected from that. The fact that she follows a vegan diet “most of the time” means she’s at least doing her part, and that she follows it enough that she’d still identify as a vegan.
Also: who gives a fuck what she wants to eat and why.
It’s totally OK for them to ask people to wear costumes and stuff to shows. But totally NOT OK for it to be mandatory. That’s just stupid. And you’re not going to get everyone on board. Insist, but don’t force.