Well, at least “Smashing Pumpkins” has released about 3 albums worth of new music since it’s been a thing again … the Pixies have been doing the reunion tour thing for 10 years and have given us an EP’s worth of shitty songs just a few months ago.
It’s to the point where I don’t even give a damn about what the Pixies do anymore. Like, “Oh, I can go see them play their greatest hits AGAIN!?” What the hell.
*ahem* not that Corgan’s output in the past few years has been solid gold, but at least a few gems in there.
righto. a stunning example of how a simple choice of words to say the same thing could make a huge difference, at least in people’s perception.
though in my opinion, there really aren’t enough flavors of vegan ice cream to keep one happy, especially compared to dairy ice cream! :-p
That certainly is a good point.
Another example. I don’t smoke. But sometimes around friends I might take a cigarette. We’re talking once in a blue moon. Does that make me “a smoker”? Not by a long shot.
In the end we’re just talking about labels. If she had said “I follow a vegan diet but sometimes I eat this,” maybe it wouldn’t have ruffled vegan feathers as much as her identifying as a capital V Vegan.
I don’t get why it’s always such a big deal to people.
If she occasionally has some ice cream (and I don’t think occasionally eating ice cream counts as “adding ice cream to your diet as much as a hurricane in New England doesn’t make our climate ‘tropical’), or once in a while has a meat product with family or something (I relate to that), it doesn’t mean she no longer follows a vegan diet. Things aren’t actually black and white.
So she’s 98% vegan and not 100%. If I put a tablespoon of cream and sugar in my coffee, it’s still coffee. I’m not going to tell people, “Actually it’s not really coffee, but it’s coffee with some cream and sugar in it.”
I of course know why vegans would have a problem with it, but I don’t think any reasonable person should find this anything other than reasonable.
Being vegan means doing your best to not contribute to animal cruelty and such to the best of your ability though there little we can do that isn’t completely disconnected from that. The fact that she follows a vegan diet “most of the time” means she’s at least doing her part, and that she follows it enough that she’d still identify as a vegan.
Also: who gives a fuck what she wants to eat and why.
It’s totally OK for them to ask people to wear costumes and stuff to shows. But totally NOT OK for it to be mandatory. That’s just stupid. And you’re not going to get everyone on board. Insist, but don’t force.
Really nice to see so much love for Glynis. Great song.
A shame that it was only ever played live that ONE time.
Glad someone finally made this list!
SP still gets a lot of flack, but they were probably one of the most unique and diverse bands of the alternative 90s, and as far as I’m concerned, the best.
The order is spot on as well, though I might have included Aeroplane Flies High.
Keep in mind too though, that for an artist to put their time into making music and performing, it’s incredibly disheartening to be up there and see a bunch of smartphones for the WHOLE show. Mentally it just gives the impression that people aren’t paying attention to what’s happening and just want a shitty video to share on YouTube, blah blah.
It just feels lousy. And encountering it night after night is probably exhausting, as opposed to “the lights being too blinding” at one show. Imagine if it was EVERY show. It is totally annoying, even just as a spectator to see that.
In all honesty I still don’t get why people can’t just enjoy the show going on in front of them. All my favorite concerts happened before smartphones were in my pocket, and I remember them just fine.
so, can anyone actually explain to me the point of Arcade Fire calling themselves The Reflektors? I don’t really get why it matters, and it sorta just gets on my nerves. “Hey we’re The Reflektors now! *wink wink* What a cool little gimmick, right guys!?”
It’s disheartening to see how many people are actually pissed off by this. “Liars,” really? So pulling a stunt and messing with the crowd makes them jerks? I think most indie fans these days have lost all sense of what “rock ‘n roll” (for lack of a better term) is all about, and lost any clue of what it means to keep an edge. I think Arcade Fire get more credit for fucking with people. Why play it safe all the time?
This was supposed to be something unusual, out of the ordinary … not so much a normal rock show as an event.
There’s this notion that “I payed this much money” and therefore the band has to cater to the audience. NO. Since when does the audience run the show? You pay money to go see the band you like DO WHAT THEY WANT. It’s their show, not yours.
I think it’s safe to say that when Arcade Fire tour properly, they’re obviously not going to keep doing this. The point was to surprise people, so now that everyone knows the surprise, why would they keep doing it?
I’m not sure any promoter would ever want to book Death Grips again without a guaranteed cancellation fee in the contract.
Better than the original version…
Yowsa, I really don’t get how anyone could put All That You Can’t Leave Behind so high on this list. For me, it was the moment U2 got boring and middle-aged adult contemporary. HOW HOW HOW, could you possibly think this is a better album than War!?
I don’t see how anything after 1993 could occupy space anywhere in the top 10, but if you want to put Pop on there, I certainly wouldn’t scoff at that.
Heck, I agree with your How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb critique, but I’d still rather listen to that than All That You Cant’ Leave Behind. Both of those albums are corny adult-contemporary, and I find it hard to see your logic in describing one that way, and not the other.
But Ok. Your opinion, I get it.
1. Achtung Baby
4. Joshua Tree
5. Unforgettable Fire
… after that, luck of the draw.
To be clear: I don’t have a problem necessarily with showcasing one’s influences; a lot of people do it. But when there’s a lack of anything new and creative brought to the table, the easiest criticism is to say they’re just ripping off a sound and doing little else, because that’s ultimately what it is. Every song on DIIV’s album sounds exactly the same to me. Exceptions are always to be made though, if someone can write a good song, and I’m not deaf to that. Like I said, they’re not terrible.
But either way, greater efforts should be made by bands to establish their own unique voices, and not the voices of “everyone else.”
I don’t understand how With Teeth is a “scaled-back album full of singles and ballads,” and “as close to easy-listening as Reznor gets.” What?? That album is mostly LOUD and lug-headed. “All the Love in the World” is notable for the disco breakdown at the end, which wasn’t even mentioned, and how do you not even point out how great “Beside You In Time” is… probably the best song on there.
The Fragile may be overly long, yes, but “Year Zero” was wayy too long as well.
I also don’t see why DIIV is a big deal… i mean, their record really wasn’t that bad, but it’s still just a rip off of that same 80′s/90s/post-punk/shoegaze thing that everyone’s already been doing.
is that video clip supposed to show us how “extremely talented” they are?
I’m surprised no one has anything to say about that little breakdown mid-way through! The song may be a bit average, but the way it cuts the chorus off short for a sudden drop-out adds a nice little creative touch. The wheels are still in motion.
Anyway, not necessarily the best of songs from them, but I certainly applaud the fact that Trent’s doing something so out-of-nowhere and trying new things. I’m not going to say I don’t like it just because it’s “happy,” but a little more grit would have done it nicely.
Dude, you do realize the name of the album is Siamese Dream, not “Dreams,” right?
This was my first proper album… was and probably still is my favorite. It’s just perfect. My fondest memories of it were during the summer of 1994… it seemed like it was still riding strong a year after it was released; but a lot of albums were like that back then.
Hard to pick a favorite song; sort of always changes. But Soma, Hummer, Rocket are always go-to’s.
Motherfucker, this album’s already 20? Some albums from the 90 have aged surprisingly well; compared to how an album from the 70s sounded in the 90s. Perhaps bigger gaps in time, as far as musical/cultural movements and ideas, and of course production technology.
Jesus Christ, “the terrific Miranda July film The Future”?? REALLY??
The worst piece of shit movie I’ve seen in a long time. First time in a while I squirmed with dissatisfaction the whole way through. I’m amazed anyone thinks it’s anything more than ‘OK’ at best. But even that’s a stretch. It was agonizing. My god, it sucked.
So, that discredits this list a little bit. :-P
Why is the press even calling this a U.S. “Tour”?? These are just a couple US dates. That’s all. Now there’s an internet firestorm over “why no east coast dates,” etc. It’s My Bloody Valentine, and I’m not at all surprised they’re only doing a few shows. But seriously, a “tour?” Jesus.
have The Chameleons sued DIIV yet?