Cool, Tame Impala got nominated in the “alternative” ghetto.
See, for me a lot of their best songs are still hurt by that – “Acquiescence” does it, too. Great song, but there are definitely a few too many “because we neeeeeeeeds” in there, just like I think they should lay off the last few “slide awaaaaaaayyyys”.
Also, the Corgan reference was funny, since they occupy similar roles these days – 90s alt-giants who now give far better interviews than th emusic they make. Though SP crushed Oasis hard.
I don’t like Reflektor, but my problem is more with the songwriting than the length. And, as someone said, Oasis were no strangers to bloat, either – Be Here Now was a pompous disaster, and even a lot of their best songs go on repeating the chorus at the end for about a minute longer than necessary (imagine how much better “Slide Away” would be if it were a minute shorter).
Ones that didn’t make it that I would have ranked fairly high:
Elvis Costello & the Roots
Cut Copy (even if I did kind of talk them down on the first page)
Thee Oh Sees
at least one of the Mark Lanegan ones
Funny that they put Kurt Vile & RtJ back to back, because those are the only two I’ve heard so far this year that I really and truly loved. There was PLENTY that I liked a lot, but those were the only two that made the full connection.
I guess I need to finally check out Deafheaven, they’re pretty consistent across the lists I’ve seen so far.
I’m surprised to see NIN, Phoenix, and Dearhunter doing so well in the lists so far, especially Monomania, which I thought was a lot more polarizing (I fall on the side that wouldn’t put it on the list).
Can’t stand Kanye, so no comment on Yeezus. Can’t help it.
It’d make my Top 50 for sure, but only because I didn’t like 50 albums this year…I probably listened to exactly that many new albums all together.
I thought they had the right idea, but the exeuction didn’t hold up for anywhere near an album’s length. It’s just kind of monotonous after a few tracks. Not enough subtlety or variety. Glad you guys liked it more, though.
The re-released late 90s (?) version of Yellow Submarine that swaps period songs for the symphonic stuff is a solid collection of songs, btw.
I actually first heard the whole evolution of Strawberry Fields Forever thin on Anthology 2 before the final version – I liked them so much it took me a while to get used to the final one, though it’s now one of my top 5.
Revolver was what started the Brian Wilson arm’s race, let’s not forget.
And The White Album really does have lots of signs of deliberate sequencing – “Why Don’t We Do It In the Road” answered by “I Will”? Awesome.
1. White Album
2. Abbey Road
3. Rubber Soul
5. Magical Mystery Tour (acknowledging Sgt. Pepper should “objectively” go here)
6. A Hard Day’s Night
7. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
8. Let it Be
9. The Beatles for Sale
11. Please Please Me
12. With the Beatles
13. Yellow Submarine
The first 4 are, in my mind unimpeachable masterpieces. Sgt. Pepper is, too, but I just don’t connect with it as much. My bias also falls heavily in Lennon’s favor, despite having started to appreciate Paul a lot more in the last handful of years and having always loved George. And I think that has legit weight on where you put certain releases.
Needless to say, love them all – With the Beatles was the first one I ever owned.
Requesting that sort of thing is fine and can be cool – My Morning Jacket asked peopole do dress weird for the show that they used for Okonokos, and it really helped the vibe they were going for.
But mandatory anything?No way.
I don’t know at this point if I think one is better than the other, but I will say that it wasn’t until I heard The Grey Album that I finally decided I liked Jay Z. I had started warming to hip-hop by 2002, but I held onto not liking Jay foranother couple of years, but once Dangermouse lured me in with the Beatles and I gave him a fair chance I obviously changed my tune.
Nicely done – those are probably the 4 strongest tracks IMO, too. Though I don’t even mind “HB2.0″.
And yeah, American Gangster was his last borderline great release. It might not be quite consistent enough to register as truly great, but it’s close enough to make the discussion.
I was given this & Low End when I was just trying to get into hip hop and liked them, but didn’t really see what was so special yet about Tribe – I think my young self was disappointed that this “jazz rap” didn’t have solos and stuff. But given a few years I fucking loved the guys.
I saw Tip do a one-off show at the TLA in Philly around ’05 that turned out to be an unannounced Tribe reunion, and for $10 at that. I got kind of hammered on malt beer on the way there and was standing near the front row and I guess was pretty enthusiastically singing along to “Sucka Nigga”, and this huge black guy next to me (I’m white, and all of this obviously matters to the story) started giving me a dirty eye and getting annoyed until my two less-drunk, also black friends told him I was cool and didn’t mean anything by it. Always struck me as kind of funny.
1. Post-Forever (which was my first hip-hop album)?
1. The W
2. 8 Diagrams
3. Iron Flag
1. GZA – Liquid Swords
2. Raekwon – Cuban Linx
3. Ghostface – Supreme Clientele
4. ODB – Nigga Please (acquired taste though it may be)
5. Rae – Cuban Linx II
The other first wave stuff is up there, too, and while neither is a masterpiece, I actually like a good number of cuts on both of the first two Masta Killa albums. Fishcale, too.
The two Bobby Digital albums were two of the first ones I bought because I really loved a lot of RZA’s verses on Forever, but neither album was particularly great.
I like it, but not as much as I’d like to. It kind of runs together – there’s not much in terms of variation or subtlety. But for a few tracks at a time it’s all pretty solid.
I’ll put in another nod to “Glynis” – nothing else like it in the SP catalog and it’s just sublime. Corgan was just unstoppable back then.
Uncle Tupelo, Bob Mould, Buffalo Tom, Urge Overkill, Pavement, and, yes, Soul Asylum’s “Sexual Healing” cover are the others ones that always really did it for me on here.
Pretty darn good. Siamese is THE album of the ’90s for me, and frankly my favorite album after 1969, putting it at #2 or 3 on my all-time list.
For personal favorites, I go:
1. Siamese Dream
6. Machina I
7. Machina II
Zeitgeist was too soul-crushing, it really put me off giving Corgan more chances. I was cynical about it at first and then finally decided “to Hell with it, it’s the Pumpkins” and let myself get excited…only for a monochromatic hard-arena-rock dumping ground with pretty much nothing i loved about the band. I have checked out a song here and there from the newer stuff, but none of it was good enough to convince me to go again.
Pisces is my #2 because I feel like they had a perfect sound in the Gish-Siamese era, and those 3 years are all we really have of full-power psychedelic-era Pumpkins. Pisces is the closest we ever got to another SD, and it’s not just the sound, but the songs, too.
I like the sound and approach to Gish more than MCIS, but the scope of the latter is hard to argue with, and nobody but the Pumpkins could have done it. Plus, great songs, but pretty close between them.
Not sure where I’d put TAFH at this point. There was a time in high school when it would have been right there near the top, but at this point I can admit it’s not all killer. It’s either before or after Adore. I really like both, mind you.
I really loved Machina when it came out because I was 16 and these guys were MY BAND, and I won sold out tickets to see them on the farewell tour for it. The production is often a bit much, but it’s not a bad set of songs. I feel like the write-up played up the poppy aspect of more than I often associate with it, even with stuff like “Try x3″- it’s got an equally hard edge for sure. Interesting album, though, I agree.
Her stuff has consistently been among my favorite AF songs, so I definitely would like some more spotlight time for her, regardless of language.
Probably their definitive album and my favorite (one may influence the other). I used to go back and forth with this & Vitalogy, but this has no songs I skip or don’t like, and it’s just the band at their most full-on. The writing is sharper and more varied than on Ten, which is mostly a collection of half badass rock songs and then some more forgettable ones.
Here, you can just hear that the boys are PISSED – their career, at least in the 90s, followed a really visible narrative – big, swinging for the fences arena debut -> angry reaction to time in the spotlight -> shambling reaction to struggles & fame that find the music recoiling from public expectations -> renewed, less angsty step towards better head space and career sustainability -> peace with earlier sound.
This has two of their greatest character pieces/ballads, and some cool minor experiments (all of which I like), but when I think of Vs., I really think of furious hard rock and that sheep on the cover. Dissident, Leash, RVM, the opening 1-2, Blood – hot damn. Even the experimental stuff was on edge. That righteous indignation really hit home with me and influenced me in the back end of high school, even though my back end of high school was about 8 years after this dropped.
Who gives a shit?
Yeah, in terms of heavy hitters, atlerative peaked for me in ’93, regardless of whether it was “in its death throes” already or whatever.
GbV’s Propeller was that year, too, and I believe we can add Midnight Marauders to the list, too.
Haha, no Ten songs. I tend to undersell Ten as an album (it’s in the back end of my albums list), but to have a Top 10 without any songs from it seems a bit much – there lie monsters. And THEN neither song from Singles? Come on…
I do agree that Binaural gets sold way too short, though.
A quick attempt at a list, no order:
State of Love & Trust
Who You Are (Ok, great call there)
Do the Evolution
Not For You
Leash or Corduroy or Satan’s Bed or Of the Girl or Breath or Nothing As it Seems or I Am Mine or I Got Id or Porch or Marker in the Sand….maybe I should’ve whittled this all down first. I really like a lot of PJ songs.
I’m fairly happy with the list – “Occupant” deserves #1, and I was happy to see “Jackie Dressed in Cobras” make it and “Spanish Techno” chart so high.
I’d have included “Graceland” and “Falling Through Your Clothes”, though.
As for the 90s stuff, it’s all pretty killer, but I think Yield is my least favorite of them. I LOVE Vs. – No Code, and as much as I like to undersell Ten, it’s got some absolute monsters on it, so I’d say it edges out Yield.
Good article, mostly because you can tell the guy just really likes Pearl Jam and was invested in it.
I kinda skipped on Backspacer – it just gave me “disposable” vibe, but I’ll definitely give this one more of a go, I think. S/T kicked ass, and was a welcome recovery after Riot Act, which missed way more than it hit. Binaural was excellent. So at that ratio/pace Lighting Bolt should be a keeper.