That hand kiss DESTROYED me. Also, Joan's face when Don came to her house in the retrospect. Joan's face while unzipping herself. ALL THE JOAN FACES.
Let the record show that Matt Weiner is the only man routinely invited to stab me in the fucking heart. #girlswithhighselfesteem
Peggy will rise through the ranks at CGC and eventually become Don's rival and inevitably blow him out of the water (but not right away) because NEW 60s VS. OLD 60s EVERYONE!
Yes, OK, Pete, Roger, terrible men abound. BUT WHAT ABOUT LANE????
He's supposed to be Joan's friend, yet all he does in this episode is try to save his own ass at Joan's expense. I think I was disappointed in his reaction most of all. Pete is a shit and Roger I think felt like he had no right to oppose it if Joan was, as Pete said, "amenable" (because Pete misleadingly lead everyone to believe that, because Pete is a shit).
But Lane is just being a pathetic coward about this whole embezzlement thing and he's grasping at straws to keep himself safe from scrutiny. Yes, his suggestion resulted in a better "deal" for Joan (YUCK!), but he didn't have her best interest in mind when he pitched it. I hope Joan finds him out and exposes his ass now that she's a partner
I don't know, I thought that Frederick Douglas costume was adorbs and nerdy and innocent. Does that make me a racist? Even though I have black friends? Guys?
I was prepared to hate this show on principle, then I started watching it and begrudgingly liked it but continued to talk shit about how I liked it "in spite of my better self" AND THEN I saw the episode where Lizzy Caplan hates Jess for the same reasons I was hating the show and I felt bad for being such a dick about it. And then Jess said my favorite of her lines, something like "And now I'm gonna pay this fine, and my checks have baby farm animals on them, bitch!" So now I just love the show because it's great. Yay!
Yes, yes, yes. Gabe is so wrong about Megan!
I have been super busy lately, but I had to log in for the first time in weeks to staunchly defend this episode and Megan, both as an individual and as a device on the show. I think the character is explored just enough: we care about her to a reasonable extent but more interesting are the revelations/reactions/outbursts that she forces other people around her (aka our old friends) to have. I like what you said about the sadness we feel about Don and Megan's failure to connect on THAT LEVEL, but I would like to posit that what makes that SO sad is their generational difference AND NOTHING ELSE.
The big tragedy of the Don/Megan romance to me is that they are essentially the same person 20 years apart (each of them a symbol of progress/advancement in their respective generation), enacting a weird Lake House-esque (terrible analogy, sorry) scenario of being ideally matched in every way but never truly able to be together due to uncrossable rifts of space/time (in this case, just social mores, but still). What I'm saying is I think that Megan and Don would be a great match if they had both grown up in the 30s (loved the scene when Don and Roger are commiserating together about having had no freedom to have a real dream, each of their predicaments so different from one another's yet so alike when pitted against Megan's).
Another scene that I cringe-loved was when he tells Megan he's not mad at her for wanting something else, etc. and then she tells him he's exactly what she hoped he'd be and he reciprocates and it's just so awkward and weirdly paternalistic on both sides and I have never felt their age difference more than in that moment.
The times, they are a-changin' and Don senses it and cannot change along with them. Or can he? My prediction is that while playing at being Roger Sterling was fun for a while, Don's pragmatism will force him to ultimately remain in "Squaresville," if for no other reason than his kids.
Maybe that's true, but what was really abhorrent about Don in that scene wasn't just that he ordered for her, but that immediately when she rejected the sherbet he copped that patronizing dad tone with her that is just. so. irksome. "Don't you think you might be overreacting with your uterus just a tiny bit, sweetheart?" Ugh!
I thought of that too, very briefly, when one of Megan's friends at the party tells Don that Megan is a really good actress. Like, why would they put that line in THIS show if it didn't MEAN something, right? But no, I don't think that she is a literal con artist. I think she is genuinely optimistic and naive but also ambitious and wily. What is also interesting is not just how she handles Don, but how Don responds to her. He doesn't seem to try manipulating or charming HER into anything, where that used to constitute so much of his MO with women before. For now, he seems to be genuinely honest with Megan about his insecurities and fears, which is... crazy. What about this girl inspires such openness and trust in our Don? Even their angry sex felt more like a game than a legitimate power struggle. Is he purely lying to himself about Megan, or was that crazy proposal last season not as crazy as it seemed?
Nah, I don't think this is that kind of show. Besides, she seemed genuinely distressed by the news that she was HEALTHY and the implications that came with it.
I'm with you. I thought the Betty stuff was a little too on the nose. Ooooh the beautiful one is fat now but she might be sick! Oh wait, she's not sick, she's just fat and she has to deal with that cold, hard truth! And also, the episode just took like 3 random subplots and smooshed them all together randomly; the best episodes IMO are the ones that revolve around a common thread.
God, I hope not! I really hope this season will reveal Megan as a character separate from Don. It's clear to me she's in no way a villain here, but I also don't see her as a good long-term match for Don. I think it would be great if she were given as much character development as the old Mrs. Draper.
Yeah, I hated her on principle last season finale and a little bit of the season 5 premiere, but it's not her fault Don is morphing into Roger Sterling. She's no Jane Segel, that's for sure, but she is definitely filling the child bride to Don role right now. A way different kind of child bride than Betty was for Don, but still. I'm actually a little uneasy with this seemingly season-long theme of the new generation sweeping in and messing with everyone's comfort zone. It's odd not to see Don and the gang be front and center of everything/the cool kids in the room. But I think I like it! I don't know, though, guys. I trust Matt Weiner but I'm nervous!
I also kind of read that scene as Betty sort of growing up in a small way (finally). Like, for someone as concerned with beauty as she is, her just accepting and giving in to her "new self" is almost revolutionary. Am I reading too much into it?
Kelly, no offense, but do you live in a house with, like, padded table corners ? Because this trick doesn't seem THAT dangerous to me, a self-proclaimed non-daredevil-type person. Although... I guess I DID once lick jelly straight off of a butter knife, so.
I would also like to add that his failure/refusal to conform to the Hollywood man-trend of maintaining an impossibly perfect body is also very hotttt (each extra t represents one inch around Hamm's middle that he COULD lose but is fine just where it is).
Oh, I get it! So the comic is sort of like a prequel to Cormac McCarthy's The Road? Is it just going to be Rick and Fucking Carl left in the end? I mean it can only be a matter of time before the living people start turning cannibalistic, right? I hope Daryl eats Carl like a lollypop, no pedo.
Maybe not just 'the sex trade,' but other than porn and modeling, I can't think of another area where women consistently outearn men. Oh, and look at that: both of those professions rely almost entirely on the employee's physical appearance.
Guilty as charged. For a good half of that video, I kept thinking, "How the fuck did she get all those jobs if she dropped out of high school? Our country really IS in the shitter!" #naivegum
What pisses me off about Dale (AND THIS SHOW) is that he was a good character on paper. I SHOULD have felt sad when he died, because he WAS moral and cool in theory, but I didn't because NOTHING IN THIS SHOW HAS DEPTH. What passes for depth on TWD are just hamfisted moments of manufactured gravitas and I am so offended that this is supposedly one of "the better shows on TV." Ugh. Maybe I've just been spoiled by Breaking Bad and its ilk?
There's no question that his worldview is limited, but I don't see him as being hateful per se, either. He seems like one of them "hate the sin, love the sinner" folks (even though the rest of us know there is no such thing). I actually felt like HE (Cameron) was the one taking the multiple worldview position in the face of Piers' attempts to get him to "admit" something. It seemed like he was deliberately trying to skirt the issue of whether gay marriage being legal in 7 states was indicative of anything. It's clear that he personally "answers to a higher standard" but it's not clear whether he would condemn the civil liberties newly afforded by those seven state governments. (Even though we ALL know he would endorse a country run under [his interpretation of] Christian law with a quickness.)
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