The thing is, the heavy handed end is the ONLY thing that brings up that point, so there's nothing to drive home. During the duration of the movie he doesn't really show any sign of emotional awakening or realization. He does an adequate job of taking care of his daughter, with about the same level of passion with which he handles his other responsibilities. There's nothing to hint that he was otherwise not like this or that he's feverishly trying to make a penance or sees the error of his ways.
The only way this movie can work is if it's point was to show how perverted and detached by their pampered environment rich people are, completely divorced from their humanity so that alienation between a father and a daughter isn't even an issue to them since they have everything, making them not care about closeness and connection.
But that only save is ruined by the heavy handed ending.
Everyone in the defense of the movie is unfairly acting like Gabe's only point was that it's boring and that that's a superficial view, like Gabe is some aficionado of action blockbusters. That's not Gabe's only point. It's that it's a movie about a guy that has a great life and nothing more. Even his estranged daughter's visit, which is the theme of the movie, doesn't disrupt it. They get along great and have fun. It's about rich people enjoying the high-class mundane everyday of their lives. In the end a lazy point is showed down our throats, to make it seem like something more was going on.
Of course it's all interlaced with a slow and quiet progression, or lack of it, that implies between the lines meaning and poignancy, which is Sophia Coppola's constant and only gimmick. Just ask yourself what the movie would be like without such a cheap cinematic trick, and you'll understand Gabe's problem with it.
Well she did talk about how she watched sesame street and it didn't effect her and about the pathologically dark world view conservatives have. Ditzy girl.
I don't understand why conservatives hate Sesame Street, the cookie monster is clearly the id-driven hunger for power that will eventually result in a corrupt and privileged polit-bureau.
Because then you assume conservatives are just misguided and confused people, instead a calculated malice machine out to see your world burn. No? Yes? Just suggesting.
I like when the lady says that liberals see people as fundamentally good and conservatives as fundamentally bad, and then they cut her off. That there basically explains the whole conservative mindset; they're either consciously or unconsciously out to cater to the idea of evil nature, and create a world designed with it's interests in mind. Hence shitting on Elmo.
I envisioned this gimmick novelty store balloon to be the future of transportation! However, then i had the better idea of using it for a cheap emotional fraud!
That's like probably the only time he showed prudence in choosing feasible ideas.
For a good murder mystery you guys need to check BBC's The Shadow Line (airing currently). Everything the killing promised it would be.
Sorry to misuse the first comment reply, but i have to get this show out there.
First of all, that kid is Croatian not Bosnian. Get your facts straight before he sticks your remote controls to his bubbies. Second of all he was shocked by electricity, to quote "220 watts!" of it. And when he came to he said "Gammy, i'm enlightened!". Which also works as a joke, because light bulbs.
Why do they have white hoods? It would make more sense if they had black hoods, then it would seem that the white skull is floating in darkness, like the bones in the rest of their outfit. You don't make sense you guys!
What is this now? Moral relativism? I sure as hell attack people who have different opinions than mine if those opinions are not only immoral, but use underhanded and deceitful tactics to undermine possible opposition. I've very well debated the matter, but you've, to no surprise, chosen to focus on a relatively toothless insult, than on my deconstruction of your ridiculous and misguiding arguments and play the victim. You're a complete jerk.
Also, i'm sure a lot of never caught rapists feel they're doing a good job, and a lot of surgeons with high success rates feel they're doing a good job. That doesn't make surgeons and rapists the same, just like both me and bullies feeling justified doesn't make us the same. Another example of your ridiculous and disingenuous debating.
Wait are you trying to defend a religion in that example or discredit it? It's confusing.
Anyway, if religions were in fact valid, and you were trying to discredit one using deceitful and misguiding arguments i would have done the same. I don't really see what you're trying to say.
I am proud of attacking someone for underhandedly and disingenuously trying to discredit a valid cause. It would be one thing if you simply stated that you don't think it's a problem, i would have simply disagreed with you, but you went on to construct misguiding and deceitful arguments to defend your already horrible opinion.
I don't think i made an incorrect assessment of your motives. I did mean it to be an attack on you for the reasons i've stated. And i don't think, as i've explained, that it was the equivalent of bullying. You're making up both statements and conclusions i haven't made. You're a terrible, and disingenuous debater.
I felt your opinion was making others feel foolish for supporting a valid cause, and was making a valid cause inferior, all very underhandedly, so i lashed out. I certainly wasn't attacking your for kicks and pleasure of demeaning someone weaker, as a bully would.
I don't know if you're pro-bullying, but what you said amounts to basically saying that psychologically unstable kids would have killed themselves anyway, regardless of the bullying. Which is callous, insensitive and untrue.
The same way a bullied child standing up to his bully is not bullying. I'm standing up to your misdirecting and disingenuous argument that was on level of Glenn Beck logic and deduction, hence calling you a ridiculous clown.
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