Death Cab For Cutie and Chvrches are in the midst of a co-headlining North American tour with two controversial shows to go on as scheduled in North Carolina. However, before the first day of tour, frontpeople Ben Gibbard and Lauren Mayberry had previously never met. They spoke for the first time just before the tour began for The Talkhouse Music Podcast to discuss — amidst traffic sounds and distanced conversation — touring, what it means to make a “good record,” and the music scenes that helped each to master their craft. Check out the full podcast below.