Last year, Thurston Moore hooked up with American black metal supergroup Twilight for what would become that band’s third and final album, III: Beneath Trident’s Tomb, released at the beginning of 2014. III is a really good album, but its creation was nothing short of a hot fucking mess, due in no small part to the actions of deposed Twilight co-founder Blake Judd, also of Nachtmystium. I wrote a whole bunch about those actions last year — in short: Judd stole from his friends and fans and he landed in jail for theft. Judd publicly expressed contrition and asked me to share his apologies with Stereogum readers — which I did — but according to the internet, he’s once again up to no good: There’s now a Facebook group dedicated to documenting Judd’s alleged scams, which I predict will result in either a class-action lawsuit and/or another bus ride to county. Orange is the new black metal! Anyway, Thur-Mo’s BM dabbling is apparently in the rearview, and who can blame him? Being involved in that trainwreck would have scared off just about anyone. A press release for Full Bleed, the upcoming album from the Moore-John Moloney collaboration Caught On Tape, includes this pretty random exchange re: black metal:

Q: How did playing black metal rub off on you for Full Bleed? It certainly sounds like it may have.

Thurston Moore: Black Metal is music made by pussies of the lowest order, and we felt it was necessary to investigate this aberrant anti-music behaviour. We feel like the sound and attitude of black metal is a loss of self, life, light and desire in a way where it becomes so negative that a whole new bliss arrives where we become super pussy.

I’m not at all clear what the fuck Thurston is talking about here — he doesn’t seem to be using the word “pussy” pejoratively, which is cool, but he’s also not exactly reclaiming it a la Perfect Pussy or Pussy Riot or Pussy Galore. I’m also not sure why he’s speaking in the first-person plural, because there’s no “we” here — the other members of Twilight are pretty much black metal lifers, not dilettantes who feel it “necessary to investigate” the genre. But if he’s referring specifically to working (or not working) with Blake, I think a lot of folks would agree that terms such as “lowest order,” “so negative,” and “loss of [X]” would apply. Caveat emptor.

(Via BrooklynVegan)

Comments (9)
  1. first, gender fascism. now genre fascism?

  2. Black Metal is existential dread + silly facepaint. I think Thurston Moore hates the facepaint.

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  4. I think he’s reaching for some kind of postmodern irony but it’s really missing the mark. Which is postmodern in itself. He’s good.

  5. We get it, Thurston, it was just a phase for you. Oh well. I just regret that we never got to see you experiment with corpsepaint.

    Maybe the “Abbath for President”/Mid-Age Riot was too much to ask for.

  6. Next in the series, Thurston “Louis Theroux” Moore researches music made by the act of stepping on feral cats:
    “This is music made by pussies of the lowest order, and we felt it was necessary to investigate this aberrant anti-music behaviour.”

  7. see, here’s the thing: if you think of thurston moore as the guy that was sleeping with kim gordon when she wrote “drunken butterfly”, then you might be wondering what the fuck he’s doing talking about black metal in the first place. but if you think of thurston moore as the guy that told us to kill our idols as he was coming out of the same nihilist, cathartic, destroy-everything scene that swans and foetus came out of, you might see why he’s attracted to black metal – or at least the parts of black metal that aren’t homophobic and misogynistic. ’cause thurston would argue rather forcefully that only pussies of the lowest order would write or listen to that kind of oppressive shit. just a twist of freud with your breakfast cereal. get it?

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